PC 1.3 Terraria hangs when launched on a traditional hard drive.

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First of all, my apologies if I'm posting a similar thread/in wrong section.

As title states, I am having issues launching terraria on a normal hard drive (5400rpm I believe). It takes anywhere from 50 seconds (If I'm lucky) to ~3 minutes to load compared to ~5-10 seconds I tested on a couple SSDs and a ramdisk. Where as it used to be able to launch 1.2.4.1 in a flash, I know alot of content and changes were added but this just seems ridiculous. I've tried a clean install, reinstalling XNA/DirectX and a different version of windows (7 vs the 8 already installed), none of these worked.
 
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Having the same issues, whenever I boot up the game takes a solid 2 minutes at least before the icon appears, then another 30 seconds or so for it to stop doing the
"Not responding" crap.
 
Ah yes, I forgot to mention it also goes through a "not responding" phase sometimes, what could be causing this?
 
I'm not really sure what the issue is here. Solid state drives are capable of transferring data much faster than hard disks, as I'm sure you know. Trying to interact with the game before it's finished loading to memory should make it seem unresponsive.

5400 RPM drives generally don't perform well as boot drives, and are generally best left as storage or backup drives that you won't frequently read/write data from/to. 7200 RPM drives are a sizeable improvement over 5400 RPM drives (although other factors, such as cache size, are also important to consider), and usually doesn't cause a huge spike in price. (While 10K and 15K RPM drives have also been around for a while, the difference in performance between most 7200 and 10K drives is much smaller than 5400 to 7200, while the cost and noise difference increases greatly.) If you can afford one of suitable capacity, an SSD is typically the best choice, performance-wise. It makes the performance difference between rotational speeds of hard disks seem like nothing.

If you're trying to figure out how to improve your loading speed, one thing that may help you is moving your page file (virtual memory) from your boot drive to a secondary drive. Typically, it'd be best to set a page file on each drive (so the operating system can utilize whichever is available at the time), but if you'd like to prevent that process from stealing any of your boot drive's bandwidth, you can set it to only use a secondary drive (instead of the one Terraria loads from).
 
Since some changes in load order in the post 1.3 hotfixes, Terraria always has a load time of somewhat variable duration on boot up . . . for some, its short, for others, its lengthy. On my PC, its only around 10-15 seconds, but I DO get the "not responding", but I don't take that to be anything faulty on my end. If I just leave it alone, it works itself out in time.
 
I'm not really sure what the issue is here. Solid state drives are capable of transferring data much faster than hard disks, as I'm sure you know. Trying to interact with the game before it's finished loading to memory should make it seem unresponsive.

3 minute loading times, let alone 50 seconds, are a joke for this kind of a game.

5400 RPM drives generally don't perform well as boot drives, and are generally best left as storage or backup drives that you won't frequently read/write data from/to. 7200 RPM drives are a sizeable improvement over 5400 RPM drives (although other factors, such as cache size, are also important to consider), and usually doesn't cause a huge spike in price. (While 10K and 15K RPM drives have also been around for a while, the difference in performance between most 7200 and 10K drives is much smaller than 5400 to 7200, while the cost and noise difference increases greatly.) If you can afford one of suitable capacity, an SSD is typically the best choice, performance-wise. It makes the performance difference between rotational speeds of hard disks seem like nothing.
I have a 7200rpm drive stripped from a laptop that I haven't used with terraria, but why are you suggesting this? I already stated that I tested with two different solid states. Be sure to read the OP carefully.

If you're trying to figure out how to improve your loading speed, one thing that may help you is moving your page file (virtual memory) from your boot drive to a secondary drive. Typically, it'd be best to set a page file on each drive (so the operating system can utilize whichever is available at the time), but if you'd like to prevent that process from stealing any of your boot drive's bandwidth, you can set it to only use a secondary drive (instead of the one Terraria loads from).
I have the drive partitioned like this.
 
3 minute loading times, let alone 50 seconds, are a joke for this kind of a game.


I have a 7200rpm drive stripped from a laptop that I haven't used with terraria, but why are you suggesting this? I already stated that I tested with two different solid states. Be sure to read the OP carefully.


I have the drive partitioned like this.

Solid state drives outperform 5400 RPM drives by a long shot, so you'll obviously get better load times when using SSDs. The difference between 50 second-3 minute load times on a hard disk and 5-10 second load times on an SSD is hardly unbelievable.
 
Solid state drives outperform 5400 RPM drives by a long shot, so you'll obviously get better load times when using SSDs. The difference between 50 second-3 minute load times on a hard disk and 5-10 second load times on an SSD is hardly unbelievable.
I wasn't, and will never, argue that terraria load speeds should be the same on a rotary storage medium as a static drive. Apologies if it may seem so, but my implication was that the harrrowing startup for such a small game on my drive is abominable, and I further tested some solid states to see if they suffered from game startup issues time.
 
I wasn't, and will never, argue that terraria load speeds should be the same on a rotary storage medium as a static drive. Apologies if it may seem so, but my implication was that the harrrowing startup for such a small game on my drive is abominable, and I further tested some solid states to see if they suffered from game startup issues time.

The changes that made Terraria slow, is just the initial loading. Terraria now loads practically all content before initializing itself into the menu. Hence reducing any...stuttering effects when loading on a constant level from the harddrive and easily accessible via RAM. I wouldn't call it hanging...

I will say this: The issue is not the hardware, its software, and its not Terraria either. It's most likely bad XNA/.NET installations, etc.

Some things to consider:
- Harddrives get slower as they age.
- Harddrives get slower as more content is saved on their media.
- Harddrivesget slower when other applications render loading times on priority.

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