Sprites Adding and balancing the Mechanical soul recipes.

[The Storm]

This suggestion has been partially implemented into my mod, the new weapons have been added: tModLoader - Storm Diver's Additions and Changes

Hello once again my Omega friends, if you’re not an Omega you’re still welcome, but inferior.

Now here’s something that’s been really bothering me for quite some time, of the three mechanical boss souls, one of them has twice as much uses than the other three, I’m looking at you souls of sight. Now take a look at this table, it shows how many souls it takes to craft one of each item that exclusively uses one of the three souls.

Spoiler: Current soul usage

x20​	x20​	x10​
x5 (x25)​	x5​	x1​
-​	-​	x15​
-​	-​	x20​
-​	-​	x15​
25 (45) Total​	25 Total​	61 Total​

Seriously, look at this, to craft one of everything it takes over twice as many Souls of sight as the other two, well I guess the Twins are technically two bosses, but still.

Here’s what I propose, some of the recipes should be changed, and perhaps a couple of new items could be added as well.
I also think each soul should be used per class:

= Melee
= Mage
= Ranged.​

Spoiler: New Crafting Recipes

Item​	Old recipe​	New recipe​	Misc.​
​	x20 x1 x20​	x20 x1 x10​	Since this weapon is a ranged weapon, let’s move it over to using souls of sight instead of fright. Let’s also replace the Iron/Lead in the recipe to hallowed bars because it kinda bothers me that a mid-hardmode weapon needs a low tier bar to make.​
​	x1 x20 x1 x5​	x1 x20 x1 x5​	To keep in line with Sight=Ranged, the Megashark will now be crafted with Souls of Sight, sorry for all of you who kill The Destroyer first for the Megashark.​
	x30 x5 x5​	x30 x5 x5​	Come on, they’re literally called souls of Fright, so why aren’t they used to craft the item that spawns a frightful event?​
​	x1 x1 x1​	x1 x1 x1​	Honestly why do these even use souls of sight? Ok I get it, they look for the player, but I still think it’s odd, especially since the other two don’t have any sensor. Let’s replace them with lenses and also add hallowed bars into the mix so they’re still post-mech boss.​
​	x1 x20 x8 x15​	x1 x20 x8 x20​	Since Fright is now the mage soul, it only makes sense to change this, also let's increase the soul count to 20 so it's inline with the others.​
​	x10 x2 x10 x5 x15​	x10 x2 x10 x5 x20​	Same as before, convert the Sight to Fright and increase the soul count to 20.​
​	x1 x2 x12 x20​	x1 x2 x12 x10​	Now because this weapon is based off of the twins, it's best I keep it as a sight craftable, but I'll lower the soul count to just 10 so sight doesn't have too many recipes.​
​	x20 x5 x5​	x20 x5 x5​	Let's just change this from fright to might just to balance out all of the souls.​
​	x1 x25 x5​	x1 x25 x1 x1 x1​	Let's make this an award for killing all three mechanical bosses shall we?​

Now even with these changed, they are still imbalanced, so here’s a couple of new weapons I propose that can be added to fill in the difference.

Spoiler: New Weapons

The Seeker

Earliest launcher, requires special ammunition. Rockets fired slightly home in and latch onto enemies and explode after a small delay. Basically an early nail gun. This is the new ranged weapon and will be crafted with souls of sight.

Damage: 55 (Ranged)
Knockback: 2
Crit Chance: 4%
Use Time: 25
Velocity: 4
Tooltip: “Launches mini latching eyes that explode after a delay”
Rarity: Pink
Sell: 3

Crafting:
x1
x20
x20
x10
@
/
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Seeker heads

Ammunition used by The Seeker, they are bought from the Demolitionist for 30 Copper when The Seeker is in your inventory

Damage: 15 (Ranged)
Knockback: 1
Velocity: 1
Tooltip: “Used with The Seeker”
Rarity: Pink
Buy/Sell: 30

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The Obliterator

Now before you all start raging at how useless chainsaws are as weapons, hear me out. When using this chainsaw it will fire a bunch of homing destroyer heads which deal damage to nearby enemies, and it fires them even faster if you hit an enemy with the chainsaw, that's special right?

Damage: 75 (Melee)
Knockback: 4
Axe power: 150%
Crit Chance: 4%
Use Time: 20
Tooltip: “Not to be confused with the Sawmill”
Rarity: Pink
Sell: 3

Crafting:

x1

x20
x20
x10
@
/
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The Vaporiser

This weapon here is a regular flail that fires a bunch of spikes when it strikes an enemy, the reason I have added a second melee weapon is to further fill the gap that souls of might have.

Damage: 65 (Melee)
Knockback: 6
Crit Chance: 4%
Use Time: 50
Velocity: 17
Tooltip: “Releases a burst of lasers upon striking an enemy”
Rarity: Pink
Sell: 4

Crafting:

x1
x15

x20
@
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The Prime Staff

This here is a magic staff that summons skulls that can ricochet of wall and enemies and do not pierce. This should be a decent enough magic weapon I hope, I've never designed any mage weapons before this

Damage: 65 (Magic)
Knockback: 4
Crit Chance: 4%
Mana: 12
Use Time: 15
Velocity: 8
Tooltip: “Creates ricocheting skulls”
Rarity: Pink
Sell: 4

Crafting:
OR x1
x20
x2
x20
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So with all that out of the way, let’s take a look at the new soul count:

Spoiler: New soul usage

​	​	​
x5 (x25)​	x20​	x20​
x20​	x20​	x20​
x20​	x20​	x20​
x5+​	x5+​	x10​
50 (70)+ Total​	65+ Total​	70 Total​

Much more balanced,

Honestly this is probably a bad idea and I really feel that souls of Fright should be for ranged, but again I’m sure people don’t want to have to kill the Skeletron prime to get the Megashark. SO what do you think of this idea, good, bad? Or should I leave this place and never return?

 

[Lord Garak]

Omicron is the superior letter

 

[Dapling]

Omicron is the superior letter

I was actually going to use Phi or Sigma in my name, but then I realized that might confuse some people

Also, Might sounds like a more melee-ish name to me, but I guess it doesn't matter all that much?

 

[The Storm]

I was actually going to use Phi or Sigma in my name, but then I realized that might confuse some people

Also, Might sounds like a more melee-ish name to me, but I guess it doesn't matter all that much?

I was going to use might for melee, but like I said I wanted to keep the Megashark a Destroyer drop.

 

[Companion Cube]

#launchergangriseup

 

[Bry]

This has bothered me for many millenia; I may now rest in peace.
Aw, those new mech weapons are actually really neat. Does the Seeker actually not home in? Because the name lead me to believe it does.

I was going to use might for melee, but like I said I wanted to keep the Megashark a Destroyer drop.

Why's that? 'Cuz I also consider Souls of Might as the Melee soul.

 

[The Storm]

This has bothered me for many millenia; I may now rest in peace.
Aw, those new mech weapons are actually really neat. Does the Seeker actually not home in? Because the name lead me to believe it does.

Why's that? 'Cuz I also consider Souls of Might as the Melee soul.

Well I wasn't sure whether they should home in, as it might be a little overpowered, but I suppose it should, I'd just need to nerf it a little.

Like I said many people fight the Destroyer first to get the Megashark, I don't think people would want to fight the skeletron prime first.

Also if I were to swap fright and might then the Pumpkin Moon Medallion would also need to use mights to be balanced, unless I add 1 or 2 new melee weapons. Also both new weapons I added are based off of the bosses that drop the souls.


Update:
Ok I just now realise that Sight makes sense for ranged, and fright mage, though I'm not entirely sure I should swap them, but if I do maybe I'll make the evil moon summons require one of each soul instead, or just ectoplasm and hallowed bars.
Also I looked back at the 1.1 crafting recipes and souls of sight were still in top, but the other two were more balanced:

Spoiler: 1.1 recipes

Might:

Fright:

Sight:

And the repeater was made with sights, yet sights were still used for all magic weapons, strange.

 

[Spazmatism7]

I definitely think Might should be Melee it just makes sense.

 

[The Storm]

Ok so major Update @Bry-ccentric @Spazmatism7 @Derpling Ω and anyone else:

• Souls of Might are now for Melee, Fright is now for Mage and Sight is now for Ranged, recipes have been changed accordingly.
• Added a new Melee and Mage weapon, The Vaporiser; a new Flail and The Prime staff; a new staff weapon.
• The Seeker now fires homing eye rockets, and the chain saw has been renamed to The Obilterator and now fires mini destroyer heads.
• The fairy bell now requires one of each soul instead of 5 souls of sight.
• Naughty presents now use souls of mights to balance them out.
• Soul requirements for the magic weapons have been increased to 20.
• The Optic staff remains a Soul of sight weapon, but it only requires 10 souls now.
• Plus some other changed I may have missed.

All this has been updated in the first post, and you can see the new table is even more balanced now, with 3 weapons for each of the 3 classes (and one for summoner, but )

 

[Sm1l@mYm@eT]

I believe that the flamethrower should keep some lead bars in it, as I believe that the purpose of having them in is that they want some uses for early ores after you exit pre-hardmode. I find that to be smart and wish they did it more.
Also,the sprite appears to be made out of iron/lead and not out of hallowed bars.
Though I agree with the fact that some of it should be hallowed, and I say it would make more sense to have half of the bars as hallowed and half of it as iron.
This is a really good suggestion by the way. It's so simple but really smart.

 

[King Victor]

Dang it. I just realized I'm an inferior human being.

 

[Dapling]

I believe that the flamethrower should keep some lead bars in it, as I believe that the purpose of having them in is that they want some uses for early ores after you exit pre-hardmode. I find that to be smart and wish they did it more.
Also,the sprite appears to be made out of iron/lead and not out of hallowed bars.
Though I agree with the fact that some of it should be hallowed, and I say it would make more sense to have half of the bars as hallowed and half of it as iron.
This is a really good suggestion by the way. It's so simple but really smart.

The thing is, you already need iron for the boss summons. It’s tiresome to need that much iron.

 

[The Storm]

I believe that the flamethrower should keep some lead bars in it, as I believe that the purpose of having them in is that they want some uses for early ores after you exit pre-hardmode. I find that to be smart and wish they did it more.
Also,the sprite appears to be made out of iron/lead and not out of hallowed bars.
Though I agree with the fact that some of it should be hallowed, and I say it would make more sense to have half of the bars as hallowed and half of it as iron.
This is a really good suggestion by the way. It's so simple but really smart.

I was lazy and made the sprites use the mechanical boss colour palette And surprise surprise this has been modded into my mod (With changes to the new weapons), well split across both, the vanilla recipe changes in one and the new items in the other.

 

[King Victor]

I was lazy and made the sprites use the mechanical boss colour palette And surprise surprise this has been modded into my mod (With changes to the new weapons), well split across both, the vanilla recipe changes in one and the new items in the other.

I'm going to reinstall T-Modloader just for your mod if it ever comes out.

 

[The Storm]

I'm going to reinstall T-Modloader just for your mod if it ever comes out.

There will be two mods

 

[King Victor]

There will be two mods

*Surprised pikachu face intensifies*

 

[The Storm]

*Surprised pikachu face intensifies*

I couldn't get a config file to work so I just put all the vanilla changes into a separate mod

 

[The Owler]

Interesting concept! I do agree that the soul recipes are unbalanced, but maybe the souls don't have to be class-specific.

 

[Heckraiser]

I agree with the idea, especially because I always thought the one weapon made with souls of fright was underwhelming. but I don't think you need to add so many weapons and make so many changes to fix it.
if you just tie the pixie bell and sensor to hallowed bars, and change the megashark to use souls of fright, it's already pretty balanced. with that you could just add the flail you designed for the souls of might and you'd achieve a similar balance without having to compromise the original creative input of the devs too much. I kinda like prime as the defacto ranger boss because he wields actual gun-like weapons during the fight. I also like the twins as the mage boss because of their connection to the hallow.

 

[lancasterrr]

When I read this a good song from deltarune soundtrack 1 started playing
COINCIDENCE I THINK NOT
It actually went really well with the theme of this post.