An INNUMERABLE amount of weapons tested against Golem

Dreadnautilus5000🌳

Dreadnautilus5000🌳

Plantera
I was bored, so I decided to do another one of these, this time against Golem. Golem is interesting because he doesn't move around much, meaning things don't usually have problems hitting him, and in his first phase he is composed of three parts, giving weapons with AoE or piercing an advantage. These tests were done in Journey Mode with the difficulty slider set to 3.00x (Master Mode), giving me 7 accessory slots to work with, and giving Golem 74586 total health (each of the fists have 13387 health, the head has 30600 health, and the body has 17212 health).

Here are my armour and accessory loadouts. From left to right: most melee weapons, yoyos, bows, guns, rocket launchers, other ranged weapons, magic weapons, and summoner weapons.
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The top three accessories are always reforged to Menacing. For most of the loadouts except for the summoner one, the four bottom accessories are reforged to Lucky. In the case of summoner, all of the accessories are reforged to Menacing.

You may be confused as to why I didn't use Beetle armour or Destroyer Emblem or Celestial Shell. The answer is that those all require defeating Golem to obtain. I am limiting myself to Pre-Golem because you can't use Post-Golem gear the first time you fight Golem.

Buffs/Potions used:
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Alongside every melee, ranger and mage weapon, a Ruthless Desert Tiger Staff was used.

Each weapon is written in a certain colour, which represents how the weapon attacks and how it hits Golem. Guide to the colours:
  • Red means that the weapon doesn't pierce or create extra projectiles on hit
  • Yellow means that the weapon doesn't pierce, but it creates extra projectiles that can sometimes hit other parts of Golem
  • Purple means that the weapon has some form of AoE, which can hit the other parts of Golem
  • Blue means that the weapon has linear piercing, meaning that it can hit multiple parts if lined up correctly
  • Green means that the weapon hits in a wide area and can hit all parts of Golem easily
<15 seconds is stupendously overpowered, 15-25 seconds is really powerful, 26-35 seconds is very strong, 36-45 seconds is strong, 46-55 seconds is somewhat strong, 56-69 seconds is mediocre, >70 seconds is weak.


Melee
  1. Starlight: 15 seconds
  2. Terra Blade: 33 seconds
  3. Scourge of the Corruptor: 34 seconds
  4. North Pole: 34 seconds
  5. Christmas Tree Sword: 36 seconds
  6. Flairon: 37 seconds
  7. Seedler: 39 seconds
  8. Paladin's Hammer: 39 seconds
  9. The Eye of Cthulhu: 41 seconds
  10. Vampire Knives: 42 seconds
  11. Death Sickle: 45 seconds
  12. Kraken: 46 seconds
  13. Flower Pow: 47 seconds
  14. Drippler Crippler: 51 seconds
  15. True Night's Edge: 59 seconds
  16. Bananarang (stack of 10): 59 seconds
  17. Bananarang (stack of 5): 59 seconds
  18. Red's Throw: 60 seconds
  19. Valkyrie Yoyo: 60 seconds
  20. Chlorophyte Partisan: 61 seconds
  21. Mushroom Spear: 61 seconds
  22. True Excalibur: 62 seconds
  23. Yelets: 66 seconds
  24. Light Disc (stack of 5): 68 seconds
  25. Sergeant United Shield: 69 seconds
  26. Chain Guillotines: 69 seconds
  27. Code 2: 70 seconds
  28. Chlorophyte Claymore: 71 seconds
  29. Ice Sickle: 73 seconds
  30. Shadowflame Knife: 73 seconds
  31. Chlorophyte Saber: 75 seconds
  32. Bananarang (stack of 1): 79 seconds
  33. Hel-Fire: 81 seconds
  34. Flying Knife: 81 seconds
  35. Amarok: 82 seconds
  36. Gradient: 82 seconds
  37. Light Disc (stack of 1): 84 seconds
  38. Chik: 85 seconds
  39. Format:C: 85 seconds
  40. Anchor: 86 seconds
  41. Frostbrand: 86 seconds
  42. KO Cannon: 89 seconds
  43. Beam Sword: 98 seconds

Ranged
  1. Tsunami (Holy Arrows): 14 seconds
  2. Eventide (Holy Arrows): 14 seconds
  3. Eventide (Ichor Arrows): 18 seconds
  4. Eventide (Venom Arrows): 18 seconds
  5. Tsunami (Venom Arrows): 19 seconds
  6. Tsunami (Ichor Arrows): 22 seconds
  7. Snowman Cannon (Mini Nuke 1): 26 seconds
  8. Phantom Phoenix + Flying Knife (Holy Arrows): 31 seconds
  9. Stake Launcher: 32 seconds
  10. Jack o' Lantern Launcher: 34 seconds
  11. Chain Gun (High Velocity Bullets, Crystal Bullets): 34 seconds
  12. Dart Pistol (Ichor Darts): 34 seconds
  13. Chlorophyte Shotbow (Holy Arrows): 35 seconds
  14. Nail Gun: 36 seconds
  15. Grenade Launcher (Mini Nuke 1): 36 seconds
  16. Chain Gun (High Velocity Bullets, Ichor Bullets): 36 seconds
  17. Piranha Gun (full Shroomite armour): 37 seconds
  18. Dart Rifle (Ichor Darts): 38 seconds
  19. Phantom Phoenix + Flying Knife (Venom Arrows): 38 seconds
  20. Phantom Phoenix (Holy Arrows): 38 seconds
  21. Hallowed Repeater (Holy Arrows): 39 seconds
  22. Candy Corn Rifle: 41 seconds
  23. Chlorophyte Shotbow (Ichor Arrows): 41 seconds
  24. Chlorophyte Shotbow (Venom Arrows): 41 seconds
  25. Phantom Phoenix (Ichor Arrows): 41 seconds
  26. Rocket Launcher (Mini Nuke 1): 43 seconds
  27. Phantom Phoenix + Flying Knife (Ichor Arrows): 43 seconds
  28. Pulse Bow (Venom Arrows): 45 seconds
  29. Elf Melter: 45 seconds
  30. Phantom Pheonix (Venom Arrows): 45 seconds
  31. Proximity Mine Launcher (Mini Nuke 1, attacking directly, utilizing pre-primed mines): 48 seconds
  32. Piranha Gun (Adamantite Mask + Shroomite Breastplate + Mythril Greaves): 48 seconds
  33. Tactical Shotgun (Chlorophyte Bullets): 48 seconds
  34. Titanium Repeater (Holy Arrows): 49 seconds
  35. Ice Bow + Flying Knife (Venom Arrows): 49 seconds
  36. Sniper Rifle (High Velocity Bullets, Ichor Bullets): 51 seconds
  37. Shadowflame Bow (Venom Arrows): 51 seconds
  38. Sniper Rifle (High Velocity Bullets, Crystal Bullets): 52 seconds
  39. Proximity Mine Launcher (Mini Nuke 1, attacking directly): 52 seconds
  40. Dart Rifle (Crystal Darts): 54 seconds
  41. Adamantite Repeater (Holy Arrows): 54 seconds
  42. Uzi (High Velocity, Crystal Bullets): 55 seconds
  43. Megashark (High Velocity, Ichor Bullets): 55 seconds
  44. Super Star Shooter: 57 seconds
  45. Hallowed Repeater (Ichor Arrows): 57 seconds
  46. Hallowed Repeater (Venom Arrows): 57 seconds
  47. Venus Magnum (High Velocity Bullets, Ichor Bullets): 57 seconds
  48. Megashark (High Velocity Bullets, Crystal Bullets): 57 seconds
  49. Venus Magnum (High Velocity Bullets, Crystal Bullets): 58 seconds
  50. Oricalcum Repeater (Holy Arrows): 58 seconds
  51. Ice Bow (Venom Arrows): 59 seconds
  52. Mythril Repeater (Holy Arrows): 60 seconds
  53. Palladium Repeater (Holy Arrows): 62 seconds
  54. Onyx Blaster (High Velocity Bullets, Chlorophyte Bullets): 63 seconds
  55. Gatligator (High Velocity Bullets, Chlorophyte Bullets): 63 seconds
  56. Titanium Repeater (Ichor Arrows): 64 seconds
  57. Titanium Repeater (Venom Arrows): 64 seconds
  58. Adamantite Repeater (Venom Arrows): 64 seconds
  59. Uzi (High Velocity Bullets, Ichor Bullets): 64 seconds
  60. Dart Rifle (Cursed Darts): 65 seconds
  61. Adamantite Repeater (Ichor Arrows): 67 seconds
  62. Cobalt Repeater (Holy Arrows): 67 seconds
  63. Dart Pistol (Cursed Darts): 67 seconds
  64. Clockwork Assault Rifle (High Velocity Bullets, Ichor Bullets): 69 seconds
  65. Toxikarp: 70 seconds
  66. Orichalcum Repeater (Venom Arrows): 71 seconds
  67. Clockwork Assault Rifle (High Velocity Bullets, Crystal Bullets): 72 seconds
  68. Orichalcum Repeater (Ichor Arrows): 73 seconds
  69. Mythril Repeater (Ichor Arrows): 73 seconds
  70. Mythril Repeater (Venom Arrows): 74 seconds
  71. Flamethrower: 77 seconds
  72. Marrow (Venom Arrows): 79 seconds
  73. Palladium Repeater (Venom Arrows): 79 seconds
  74. Cobalt Repeater (Venom Arrows): 79 seconds
  75. Palladium Repeater (Ichor Arrows): 80 seconds
  76. Cobalt Repeater (Ichor Arrows): 85 seconds

Magic
  1. Stellar Tune: 20 seconds
  2. Razorblade Typhoon: 21 seconds
  3. Nightglow: 23 seconds
  4. Razorpine: 26 seconds
  5. Spectre Staff: 32 seconds
  6. Bubble Gun: 34 seconds
  7. Resonance Scepter: 34 seconds
  8. Venom Staff: 38 seconds
  9. Unholy Trident: 41 seconds
  10. Toxic Flask: 42 seconds
  11. Inferno Fork: 43 seconds
  12. Leaf Blower: 43 seconds
  13. Wasp Gun: 45 seconds
  14. Magnet Sphere: 47 seconds
  15. Spirit Flame: 47 seconds
  16. Tome of Infinite Wisdom (Left click attack): 47 seconds
  17. Cursed Flames: 48 seconds
  18. Poison Staff: 48 seconds
  19. Shadowbeam Staff: 50 seconds
  20. Nettle Burst: 50 seconds
  21. Crystal Serpent: 50 seconds
  22. Rainbow Rod: 51 seconds
  23. Magical Harp: 51 seconds
  24. Shadowflame Hex Doll: 51 seconds
  25. Sky Fracture: 51 seconds
  26. Crystal Storm: 51 seconds
  27. Flower of Frost: 52 seconds
  28. Medusa Head: 54 seconds
  29. Life Drain: 55 seconds
  30. Tome of Infinite Wisdom (Right click attack): 56 seconds
  31. Rainbow Gun: 57 seconds
  32. Magic Dagger: 60 seconds
  33. Frost Staff: 65 seconds
  34. Clinger Staff: 69 seconds
  35. Nimbus Rod: 70 seconds
  36. Golden Shower: 71 seconds
  37. Crystal Vile Shard: 73 seconds
  38. Ice Rod: 73 seconds
  39. Laser Rifle: 75 seconds

Summoner
  1. Terraprisma + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 8 seconds
  2. Terraprisma + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 8 seconds
  3. Terraprisma + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 9 seconds
  4. Terraprisma + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 9 seconds
  5. Terraprisma + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 9 seconds
  6. Terraprisma + Kaleidoscope: 9 seconds
  7. Terraprisma + Morning Star: 10 seconds
  8. Terraprisma + Dark Harvest: 11 seconds
  9. Terraprisma + Durendal: 12 seconds
  10. Raven Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 14 seconds
  11. Raven Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 15 seconds
  12. Tempest Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 15 seconds
  13. Tempest Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 15 seconds
  14. Blade Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 15 seconds
  15. Blade Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 15 seconds
  16. Raven Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 16 seconds
  17. Raven Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 16 seconds
  18. Desert Tiger Staff + Firecracker + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 16 seconds
  19. Sanguine Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 16 seconds
  20. Raven Staff + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 17 seconds
  21. Tempest Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 17 seconds
  22. Tempest Staff + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 17 seconds
  23. Desert Tiger Staff + Firecracker + Kaleidoscope: 17 seconds
  24. Desert Tiger Staff + Firecracker + Dark Harvest: 17 seconds
  25. Blade Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 17 seconds
  26. Desert Tiger Staff + Firecracker + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 18 seconds
  27. Tempest Staff + Kaleidoscope: 18 seconds
  28. Sanguine Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 18 seconds
  29. Blade Staff + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 18 seconds
  30. Blade Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 18 seconds
  31. Raven Staff + Kaleidoscope: 19 seconds
  32. Tempest Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 19 seconds
  33. Pirate Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 19 seconds
  34. Raven Staff + Dark Harvest: 20 seconds
  35. Desert Tiger Staff + Kaleidoscope: 20 seconds
  36. Blade Staff + Kaleidoscope: 20 seconds
  37. Desert Tiger Staff + Firecracker + Morning Star: 21 seconds
  38. Pirate Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 21 seconds
  39. Pirate Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 21 seconds
  40. Sanguine Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 21 seconds
  41. Pygmy Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 21 seconds
  42. Tempest Staff + Morning Star: 22 seconds
  43. Tempest Staff + Dark Harvest: 22 seconds
  44. Desert Tiger Staff + Firecracker: 22 seconds
  45. Desert Tiger Staff + Dark Harvest: 22 seconds
  46. Sanguine Staff + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 22 seconds
  47. Sanguine Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 22 seconds
  48. Pygmy Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 22 seconds
  49. Pygmy Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 22 seconds
  50. Optic Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 22 seconds
  51. Raven Staff + Morning Star: 23 seconds
  52. Deadly Sphere Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 23 seconds
  53. Deadly Sphere Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 23 seconds
  54. Desert Tiger Staff + Firecracker + Durendal: 23 seconds
  55. Sanguine Staff + Kaleidoscope: 23 seconds
  56. Pygmy Staff + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 23 seconds
  57. Pygmy Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 23 seconds
  58. Pygmy Staff + Kaleidoscope: 23 seconds
  59. Deadly Sphere Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 24 seconds
  60. Pirate Staff + Kaleidocope + Durendal: 24 seconds
  61. Spider Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Durendal: 24 seconds
  62. Desert Tiger Staff + Morning Star: 25 seconds
  63. Optic Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 25 seconds
  64. Spider Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 25 seconds
  65. Spider Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest + Morning Star: 25 seconds
  66. Optic Staff + Kaleidoscope + Dark Harvest: 26 seconds
  67. Spider Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 26 seconds
  68. Raven Staff + Durendal: 27 seconds
  69. Deadly Sphere Staff + Kaleidoscope: 27 seconds
  70. Desert Tiger Staff + Durendal: 27 seconds
  71. Tempest Staff + Durendal: 27 seconds
  72. Deadly Sphere Staff + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 28 seconds
  73. Deadly Sphere Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 28 seconds
  74. Pirate Staff + Kaleidoscope: 28 seconds
  75. Pirate Staff + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 28 seconds
  76. Optic Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 28 seconds
  77. Spider Staff + Kaleidoscope: 28 seconds
  78. Spider Staff + Kaleidoscope + Durendal: 28 seconds
  79. Blade Staff + Dark Harvest: 28 seconds
  80. Sanguine Staff + Dark Harvest: 29 seconds
  81. Sanguine Staff + Morning Star: 30 seconds
  82. Pygmy Staff + Dark Harvest: 30 seconds
  83. Optic Staff + Kaleidoscope + Morning Star: 30 seconds
  84. Optic Staff + Kaleidoscope: 30 seconds
  85. Blade Staff + Morning Star: 30 seconds
  86. Pygmy Staff + Morning Star: 33 seconds
  87. Deadly Sphere Staff + Dark Harvest: 34 seconds
  88. Pirate Staff + Dark Harvest: 35 seconds
  89. Sanguine Staff + Durendal: 36 seconds
  90. Deadly Sphere Staff + Morning Star: 37 seconds
  91. Spider Staff + Dark Harvest: 37 seconds
  92. Spider Staff + Morning Star: 38 seconds
  93. Blade Staff + Durendal: 38 seconds
  94. Pirate Staff + Morning Star: 39 seconds
  95. Optic Staff + Dark Harvest: 39 seconds
  96. Pygmy Staff + Durendal: 41 seconds
  97. Optic Staff + Morning Star: 43 seconds
  98. Deadly Sphere Staff + Durendal: 48 seconds
  99. Pirate Staff + Durendal: 50 seconds
  100. Spider Staff + Durendal: 56 seconds
  101. Optic Staff + Durendal: 57 seconds
 
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Fishron/Empress drops definitely are statistically significant outliers for kill times, which makes sense since they are technically tiered as post-Golem. But I am surprised there isn't a test for the Eventide with the Endless Quiver - the Wooden Arrow to Twilight Lance conversion gives them piercing damage for 4 targets, so all the lances can completely penetrate Golem's body and hands in the 1st phase rather than the double damage one, and is something I abused when I was doing Bows only+Wingless. None of the arrow types used with the Eventide in your tests have any piercing, so would this make a significant difference in kill times or not?

And wow Summoner is busted, none of the times go beyond a minute, and that's with Mech-tier summons and a single whip. Must be all that whip damage.
 
Xurkitree1 said:
There are 33 Summonner builds that outstrip the best Magic weapon, Stellar Tune for kill times.
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Most of the under-20-second summoner builds include a weapon that's nominally post-golem (let alone the Terraprisma) and/or juggling two or three whips. Without one of those, the times bottom out at 22 seconds. Several honestly pre-Golem magic weapons can do 40 or 45-seconds (notably the Resonance Scepter and Venom Staff) -- which is "twice as long", but also only a 20-second or so difference. I think that qualifies as "almost as good".
 
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Technicaly using Terraprisma or sth like that is like using Duke's drops on pre mech. They are Lunar tier. And Duke+ Empress drop refered as post golem tier . So a little bit unfair when testin them on Golem.
 
Soiconcodoc132 said:
Technicaly using Terraprisma or sth like that is like using Duke's drops on pre mech. They are Lunar tier. And Duke+ Empress drop refered as post golem tier . So a little bit unfair when testin them on Golem.
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You can still obtain them Pre-Golem, which means they are indeed candidates for the fight. Yes, their results mean quite a bit less, but how well they do against Golem still has relevance.
 
Xurkitree1 said:
And wow Summoner is busted, none of the times go beyond a minute, and that's with Mech-tier summons and a single whip. Must be all that whip damage.
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Makes sense when more than half of the tests were done with the theoretically-post-golem Kaleidoscope.

I think these tests need to be organized better; it's really hard to find the performance of a specific minion when more than half of the Summoner tests seem to be all possible combinations of Kaleidoscope you can think of instead of more helpful Pre-Golem Summoner tests
 
Really late to the party here (didn't see this till just now), but I think it's cool that, excluding Empress of Light, Frost Moon and Duke Fishron drops, the best Melee, Ranged, and Magic times are all 32-33 seconds (I'd consider Frost Moon to be generally post-Golem for most people).

Crazy that even without empress drops, whip-stacking gets desert tiger+firecracker+dark harvest to 17 seconds, and no whip stacking gets raven and dark harvest to 20 seconds. Seems like Summoner is the strongest class at this point in the game, even if they nerf whip stacking.
 
ISAWHIM said:
Did you do the summoner ones with "Max minions", 11, I believe... using Stardust Armor, Necromantic Scroll, Pygmy Necklace, Papyrus Scarab, Summoning Potion and Bewitching Table. Only 10 if you use the Tiki-armor from the witchdoctor. (The free sentry from stardust armor would need to be counted too, I suppose.)
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I limited myself to Pre-Golem equipment, so I had 10 minions from Spooky armour, two scrolls, a Pygmy Necklace, and buffs. Tiki and Spooky provide the same number of minion slots however Spooky has a bigger damage increase, so there isn't any reason to use Tiki instead.
 
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