BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
@TOMKA, just wanted to let you know EotA support for Artificer (and Thrower) Post-Game Add-On(s) is finally out!
After testing out its gear, I decided to make Permalloy post-Creation/Destruction, as the mod doesn't really offer anything much stronger than the Lunar Armors beforehand. Supernova gear is also accessible, being made using Infinity Crystals (This does mean it's tedious to craft, though). Support for EotA will - of course - also carry over to the upcoming Capture Disc Class and its post-game add-on.
Hope you enjoy!
After testing out its gear, I decided to make Permalloy post-Creation/Destruction, as the mod doesn't really offer anything much stronger than the Lunar Armors beforehand. Supernova gear is also accessible, being made using Infinity Crystals (This does mean it's tedious to craft, though). Support for EotA will - of course - also carry over to the upcoming Capture Disc Class and its post-game add-on.
Hope you enjoy!
TOMKA
Terrarian
Thank you for adding the support!
However, while I feel that the Thrower support is nicely balanced, I think that in Artificer's case things need to be tweaked due to Echoes of the Ancients' armor balancing.
What I'm trying to say is that Supernova armor is a lot less powerful than the Infinity armor.
Yes, it grants you more accessory slots and a bit more damage and critical strike chance, but Infinity armor has a lot of advantages: 48 more defense, a good movement speed bonus (which is goid enough to replace boots if you're using them), 8 more minion slots (which makes it a lot more powerful (especially if you're using minions alongside other class)), 150 more life, 160 more mana.
The set bonus of Infinity armor is also extremely strong (both offensively and defensively), but Supernova's one isn't weak either (though Infinity armor's one is very strong, especially if you're good enough at dodging, althought the defensive bonus is pretty powerful one as well).
I feel like the Paragon armor is more of a sidegrade to the Infinity armor than the Supernova one. It has the potential to be super powerful with all the extra accessory slots, but it still lacks a lot of the bonuses I've listed above and, let've honest, it's an endgame set that requres a lot of effort to get, I din't think it's that critical if it's a bit more powerful than the original set due to the right choice of accessories.
Supernova armor is definitely stronger than the Enkin, Tungqua, Duskbulb and Stellarite ones (only because of the extra accessories though), but it still feels more of a sidegrade to these sets anyway. And, once again, these are endgame sets in the mod. Unless someone uses a lot of mods (which already leads to some crazy Post-Moon Lord balancing issues most of the time), I don't think that it would be a bad thing if the set turns out to be a bit more powerful if you're using the right accessories.
I'm not sure what to do with the Permalloy set though. I mean, you could make it an extremely hard to get set (for example, make it require lots of biome stones (which woukd actually make them more useful since right now they are only needed for an unconsumable boss summoning item) or make Permalloy rarely obtainable from Cosmic Keys), but it still would be overpowered (and balancing something only around its rarity is not a great solution). It's just that, as you've said, there aren't any good spots for this set in this specific mod. Or you can exclude this specific tier, though it can be a bit weird.
Why does the thrower balancing work, but artificer's doesn't? Because throwing weapons are more powerful than any other weapons in the mod, so they feel much more balanced when combined with the armor set.
Maybe I should've done more more testing and I'm missing something, but that's the conclusion I came up with.
Now some things regarding your previous response:
1. I may've said it weirdly, but Biome Crystal is unobtainable if you're using the Aether's Blessing and have the "Aether Pylon is obtained by shimmering pylons" option. Forest Pylon will be transmuted to Aether Pylon with both mods enabled. I guess, it's because Aether's Blessing is loaded after Block's Info Accessories.
2. I haven't noticed the config option for the Smithing Hammer, I'm sorry! It's good that you've already thought of that.
Lastly, I have a small suggestion for Block's Boss Bars. It would be good if Thorium's biome mimics were whitelisted as minibosses (for the miniboss bar) by default. It's not hard for me to do it manually, but it'd be slightly more convenient for others.
Maybe you could even add Mod.Calls for that.
And, as always, thank you for your response (and for implementing my suggestions)! Can't wait to try out your future projects!
BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
On second thought, yeah I agree Paragon Armor should be available as an alt. to Infinity. From my experience I've learned to never underestimate the extra accessory slots, but in this case even having +3 wouldn't really make up the gap between Supernova and Infinity.
I think what I'll do is make it so you can craft Paragon Armor, but not Paragon accessories (They're too powerful for EotA; Climax Catalyst can deal 200K damage to a single target in one use, without stat boosts). Supernova will still be fully available, though, and I'll make it cheaper.
Oh, and thanks for clarifying about the Biome Crystal & Aether Pylon. I should be able to make it so Block's Info Accessories loads after Aether's Blessing, that'll fix the issue.
TOMKA
Terrarian
That sounds insanely powerful! I haven't though there are any mods for which this wouldn't be overpowered, haha!
BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
Yeah, it's because you only get to use it every 90 seconds (Though in practice it's a bit less if you have cooldown reductions from gear, which you will since Paragon has a built in reduction in its set bonus), and you only get that full 200K if you're able to hold the beam on the target in question for its full duration (Which is very difficult since bosses move around, and the Climax Beam has a limited turning speed, like the Last Prism). I had to balance things around Calamity since it's the most popular mod with post-ML content, and that's how much it takes to keep up with its endgame stuff lol. In fact, I'm pretty certain its 'Universe Splitter' weapon (Which has a 45 second cooldown) deals even more damage.
Hello! I'm a beginner mod developer. I wanted to make a mod that would be an ADDON for your mod "Block's Thrower mod", as well as for the "consolaria" mod. I planned to add a thrower made from Okram's boss materials to the mod, and also planned one weapon that would drop from Okram himself. I already wrote the code and also made the armor textures, but when testing the mod I realized that my windows might be crooked, or I don't know why my game didn't see .NET 8.0. SDK library (I made the code via GPT chat). In general, I would like you to look at my mod and, if you can, finish it, because I’m my own I made my mod specifically for your "Block's Thrower Mod". If you still want to do this, I will provide you with the code and textures. I don’t mind if you post it under your name, if you come in, you can tag me as the author of the idea (again, if you wish). Thanks in advance!!
BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
So, basically, you need someone to debug and clean up the code so that the mod will run? I suppose I'd be willing to help. Do you have a pastebin or GitHub (or the like) repo where I can download the mod files?
Also, for the future, I'd advise against relying on AIs like GPT if you're serious about learning to code and/or mod.
As you've seen for yourself, they aren't perfect and will make mistakes that prevent your mod from working.
Furthermore, having the AI do all the work won't get you much meaningful coding/modding experience (if any at all), meaning you won't really be able to improve your coding/modding skills and develop new skills/capabilities for creating a wider and/or more advanced variety of content.
Also keep in mind that many members of the modding community probably won't have much respect for AI-generated mods, since they're inherently low-effort (Since the AI does the heavy-lifting).
Alternatively, I highly recommend using tModLoader's GitHub as a resource for learning! Personally, I utilized their GitHub Wiki guides and ExampleMod to start learning tML. It's pretty good for learning the basics of tML modding, and a good way to start making content is to adapt code from ExampleMod.
From there, just strive to learn new things (Ex: If you have an idea for a cool weapon/projectile/etc, just go for it and see what you can do!) and build upon your knowledge base. Open source mods (Such as many of my own mods) and the vanilla Terraria sourcecode (tML's Wiki can teach you how to (legally) get a copy of decompiled Terraria) are great resources for this. Though I've not personally utilized it, I'm sure the tModLoader Discord (There is a link in tML's WIki) is full of people who would be willing to help out and give advice.
I am very grateful to you that you decided to help me. I don't have Github, but in this case I can create one and upload files there. Oh, one more request. For ease of communication, could you provide your discord or telegram? And about artificial intelligence technologies. I would love to make a mod without it, but as I described above, the .NET 8.0 SDK library does not want to work on my computer, and this is the whole problem, and this is the real reason why I decided to try use AI technology for this.
BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
Ah, I see. Yeah, not having .NET SDK is a big issue, you should definitely get that sorted out ASAP.
I presume you're running either a Linux/Mac/Windows OS and tried following the directions on the tML wiki?
In case you missed this detail, there are different installers for the different OSs, so I'd verify you tried the right one. It might also be possible the most up-to-date version of .NET SDK isn't compatible with your machine if it's an older model. I'm no expert on this matter so I'm really just speculating here. It'd probably be best to look for help in the tML Discord, where you can reach more people who are likely to be more knowledgeable on this matter.
Once you've set yourself up on GitHub, make a repository for your mod, upload its files, and send me a link to the repo.
IIRC this is relatively intuitive, though I don't 'properly' use Git and GitHub ATM, I do use a repo to upload copies of my mod's .tmod files, so I've figured out how to make a repository and directly upload to it. You won't need to know/use Git for this part, though it would be a good skill to learn sometime (That goes for myself too).
I think we'll be OK without Discord for the time being, as once your GitHub repo is up, I'll make a PR or Issue for the code cleanup. You can comment on PR and Issue threads, which should suffice for our purposes.
Hello again, I have everything ready! Please tell me your repository name so that I can register you in a private repository
BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
Thx!
Unfortunately I'm unsure if modded mobile or console is even possible, at least regarding tML. Different hardware generally has their own OSs, so you'd have to port everything to get it to work, which would likely entail an amount of effort the tMod team probably isn't willing/able to go to, let alone modders. Consider how Re-Logic hired/works with DR Studios (and other companies in the past) to port Terraria to mobile/console; modders don't have resources like that.
On top of that, you need to get approval from the hardware developer in order to (legally) release public software for their console/hardware, which is near impossible here since tML - though endorsed by Re-Logic - is still unofficial 3rd-party content.
I do agree it would be really cool, but it's just not logistically or legally feasible.
BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
I presume you meant to refer to my GitHub username? It's also 'BlockCrusader' on there, just like as it is here.
BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
Hey, this isn't translated so I can't tell what you've said here, but I was able to get the files you attached...
After looking at them, unfortunately I don't think there's anything I can do. The only 'good' content the AI generated was the spear's sprite;
- The other sprites are blurry, have mixels, and are very clearly AI (For instance, I can tell at a glance that the helmet is a Spider Helmet that the AI distorted)
- There are only item sprites; sprites for projectiles are equipped armor are missing
- All of the code was written in a single, disorganized file of the wrong file type (So it can't be opened as a Visual Studio project). Some of the code does make sense, but there are many errors and it's not clear what the different items are meant to do (For example, it looks like the armor set is granting Summon damage?). There is also absolutely no code for projectiles.
To actually get a working product out of this, I'd basically have to start from scratch and build the mod from the ground up. However, doing that would defeat the purpose of making your first mod, as it would no longer be your effort and design choices going into its creation, and you wouldn't be getting any modding experience out of it. I know this is contrary to your request of me, and doesn't help your problem, but I'd rather not take this opportunity (Making your first mod) away from you. Sorry to disappoint after trying to help this entire time...
My advice would be to focus on figuring out how to successfully install .NET SDK on a device - as mentioned before - so that you can properly start modding on your own. Again, I'm no expert on this process, so I'd ask for help from the tML community, such as in their Discord.
When you do get things working, I'd start out with something very basic so you can get a grasp on the workflow. For example, the tML wiki's Starter Guide just has you create a simple sword. The addon you want to make seems pretty small in scope/size, so it shouldn't be too hard to make once you've got some basic experience with weapons, armor, and projectiles. As mentioned in an earlier comment, the Example Mod source is a very useful resource for learning how to make new types of content.
Best of luck with your modding endeavors!
A thousand apologies, I forgot to use a translator to communicate. It's funny, I created the textures myself, and did not use artificial intelligence. As for the helmet, I thought that the texture of the spider helmet would well emphasize the very idea that it is the face of the helmet itself. I'm really sorry that I still have to shelve this idea, but I don't think it will last long. Anyway, thank you very much for your willingness to help
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TOMKA
Terrarian
The new Arsenal update is amazing! So many great changes were made! The Hellbinder is extremely creative, rocket launchers now have ammo progression, which is cool, and I really like the reworked Zenith-tier weapons!
However, I did find a couple of bugs (as I always do, haha):
1. Makeshift Missiles are uncraftable. I believe they are supposed to be craftable since that's how you used to get Rockets in this mod.
Speaking of that, Rocket Is and Rocket IIs are still craftable))))
2. The zoom that some weapons in this mod have doesn't stack with the Rifle Scope (or its upgrades, I guess), unlike the zoom from the Sniper Rifle. I've seen this feature implemented in some mods, so I'm sure it's possible.
3. There is a small typo in the mod's description (the word "rapiers" is mistyped).
Also, here's some more feedback about the other mods of yours.
Weapon Augments:
1. The Weapon Augments description has a typo ("Ultiamte+" in the "Augment Variery" section).
2. Could you add an option to unload Uncanny Gems if the recipes are unloaded? It's a bit annoying to have them in this case, since all the augment materials are shown in the boss log, so it's impossible to complete it, which is slightly annoying. Not a huge issue, but still. Besides, it makes challenges like "Research every item" impossible. I guess, you'll have to add a seperate option for this since I think that you really want to keep the "unloading recipes" option not require a reload.
Block's Thrower:
Thanks for adding the "Convert every ranged consumable to throwing" option! I'm not sure why it's disabled by default. Shouldn't it be the other way around since it's a consistency option? Not a big deal, but I'd just like to know your reasoning.
Also, why doesn't it affect throwing items that are also ammo? I mean, snowballs deal throwing damage with this mod, why shouldn't other "throwing ammo" weapons do the same thing? Did you run into some problems with this feature? I'm asking because I can probably help you with that.
Also, it would be nice if you find a way to set the projectiles' damage type to throwing as well. I'm not exactly sure how to do that, unfortunately.
Post-game add-ons (all of them, but I'll mostly use the Artificer one as an example):
I think that the post-game items by default shouldn't load unless they are obtainable with other enabled mods.
Currently, some people may be confused on how to get some items only to find out they are unobtainable. This situation can happen even if they read the description. Terraria playthroughs are pretty time-consuming (and mods make them even more time-consuming). By the time a lot of people reach the Moon Lord, they may forget what content is obtainable in their modpacks. This may lead to some annoying situations (for example, imagine if you get everything for paragon accessories only to find out that the particle is unobtainable with your set of mods...).
I know it may be a bit annoying to set this system up. But I feel like it would be a nice quality of life change. (I guess you can make a class with fields for each tier that sets their values depending on the loaded mods. This would make the items' code cleaner (it will make a return value of the "Load" hook shorter since you'll have to give it more than one statement as a return value only if some parts of the set are obtainable as an exception) and will make adding support for new mods easier since you won't have to edit the code of every single item.)
There should also be an option to disable this change for people who just want to have fun in their test words.
Finally, I want to once again thank you for all the awesome mods and updates you've made! I hope that you won't stop after the Arsenal update is finished. Would be cool to see your take on a world generation mod (I really like mods with new biomes and/or structures) or to see more experiments of yours in general!
EDIT: Found a typo in Arsenal's description.
However, I did find a couple of bugs (as I always do, haha):
1. Makeshift Missiles are uncraftable. I believe they are supposed to be craftable since that's how you used to get Rockets in this mod.
Speaking of that, Rocket Is and Rocket IIs are still craftable))))
2. The zoom that some weapons in this mod have doesn't stack with the Rifle Scope (or its upgrades, I guess), unlike the zoom from the Sniper Rifle. I've seen this feature implemented in some mods, so I'm sure it's possible.
3. There is a small typo in the mod's description (the word "rapiers" is mistyped).
Also, here's some more feedback about the other mods of yours.
Weapon Augments:
1. The Weapon Augments description has a typo ("Ultiamte+" in the "Augment Variery" section).
2. Could you add an option to unload Uncanny Gems if the recipes are unloaded? It's a bit annoying to have them in this case, since all the augment materials are shown in the boss log, so it's impossible to complete it, which is slightly annoying. Not a huge issue, but still. Besides, it makes challenges like "Research every item" impossible. I guess, you'll have to add a seperate option for this since I think that you really want to keep the "unloading recipes" option not require a reload.
Block's Thrower:
Thanks for adding the "Convert every ranged consumable to throwing" option! I'm not sure why it's disabled by default. Shouldn't it be the other way around since it's a consistency option? Not a big deal, but I'd just like to know your reasoning.
Also, why doesn't it affect throwing items that are also ammo? I mean, snowballs deal throwing damage with this mod, why shouldn't other "throwing ammo" weapons do the same thing? Did you run into some problems with this feature? I'm asking because I can probably help you with that.
Also, it would be nice if you find a way to set the projectiles' damage type to throwing as well. I'm not exactly sure how to do that, unfortunately.
Post-game add-ons (all of them, but I'll mostly use the Artificer one as an example):
I think that the post-game items by default shouldn't load unless they are obtainable with other enabled mods.
Currently, some people may be confused on how to get some items only to find out they are unobtainable. This situation can happen even if they read the description. Terraria playthroughs are pretty time-consuming (and mods make them even more time-consuming). By the time a lot of people reach the Moon Lord, they may forget what content is obtainable in their modpacks. This may lead to some annoying situations (for example, imagine if you get everything for paragon accessories only to find out that the particle is unobtainable with your set of mods...).
I know it may be a bit annoying to set this system up. But I feel like it would be a nice quality of life change. (I guess you can make a class with fields for each tier that sets their values depending on the loaded mods. This would make the items' code cleaner (it will make a return value of the "Load" hook shorter since you'll have to give it more than one statement as a return value only if some parts of the set are obtainable as an exception) and will make adding support for new mods easier since you won't have to edit the code of every single item.)
There should also be an option to disable this change for people who just want to have fun in their test words.
Finally, I want to once again thank you for all the awesome mods and updates you've made! I hope that you won't stop after the Arsenal update is finished. Would be cool to see your take on a world generation mod (I really like mods with new biomes and/or structures) or to see more experiments of yours in general!
EDIT: Found a typo in Arsenal's description.
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BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
Thanks for more feedback and bug reports, as ever!
Arsenal:
1: Oops, yeah Makeshift Missiles are meant to be sold by the Demolitionist, but either way I forgot to make them obtainable altogether. I'll also fix the Rocket I/II crafting recipe.
2: I should be able to do that without issue. That said, guns like Antimatter are gonna be able to zoom out comedically far now (Or I could just nerf the base zoom-out...).
3: Typo is now fixed
Augments:
1: Typo also now fixed
2: I could make it so the Uncanny Gem unloads alongside recipes if you disable them altogether.
Thrower:
1: ...Actually ATM it IS on by default(?). I just realized I never checked against the config option when deciding whether or not to globally convert items, so right now it's just constantly on lol. That said, I do intend to leave 'off' as the default state once this is fixed. For one, the feature isn't really explicitly 'advertised' if you will, so having it on by default might confuse some users as to why all consumable ranged weapons are suddenly Thrower. It's also not the most stable feature, since - though unlikely - conversion to Thrower could have unseen implications for various modded items.
2: I decided on excluding throwable ammo because ammo is for Ranged weapons. Since Ranged remains an official class whereas Thrower is no longer, I feel that in edge cases such as this the ammo aspect takes priority over the throwing aspect. Converting ammo to Thrower would also have implications on the damage type inflicted (The Snowball Cannon, a Ranged weapon, deals Throwing damage when snowballs are converted) once I address the point below. The independent config for Snowballs is available for comprehensiveness.
3: While it isn't possible (to my knowledge) to change projectile's damage type upon loading (Without converting ALL ranged projectiles, that is), I did just think of a way to convert projectiles the moment they're spawned, via. the OnSpawn hook.
Post-Game Add-Ons:
I guess I could, but TBH it doesn't really feel like it's worth the effort to me. Due to there being some edge cases (Ex: EotA only having partial support for Paragon Tier) I wouldn't be fully able to make blanket checks for 'hey is this tier accessible?' since it might be that only some items - but not all - of a given tier are available to the user. In its current state, it's still easy enough to figure what IS available since the recipes will pop up in crafting/cheat sheet/guide once you have the components. Knowing what's available is more important than knowing what's not, since the latter can't affect gameplay. Perhaps I can do this later, but it seems like a niche improvement that will only be a small help to those who have a lot of mods and forgot, and/or just didn't read the description.
For the future, ATM the latter half of Arsenal's final major update is underway. That said there will surely be subsequent patches, especially since it (Not to mention my other mods) will need to port to tML 1.4.5 whenever that becomes a thing.
I've not really dabbled with worldgen since it's a pretty complex thing to implement. Right now I just know how to add things to chests (oh, and make Turtle Boulders).
If you're looking for Worldgen mods, I recommend Microdungeons and More as well as Jere the Juggler's Custom Generation, which are both nice, small-scale mods that add some new structures and are vanilla friendly and (from my experience) get along fine with most large content mods. I also like Verveine's Better Caves mod, another small mod that makes improvements to cave systems in a vanilla friendly manner (and it's designed to work with all other mods).
I do have a couple ideas for more mods, but after Arsenal I'm gonna take a moment to consider options and stuff. For instance, people often request Wikis for my content mods, so that's something I'd like to do at some point (Though it'll be a colossal task).
TOMKA
Terrarian
Thank you for the quick response!
I get your point about not converting "throwing ammo" to throwing and jeepong global conversion off. In my opinion, reintroducing thrower in a faithful way kind of means having these features, but I get your opinion as well.
Also, thank you for recommending some mods. Funnily enough, I actually knew about all of them (JereTheJuggler's Custom Generation is one of my favourites), but thank you for putting your time.
I meant that it would be interesting to see your take on such a mod since your ideas are usually both faithful to the base game and original!
Also, making a wiki would be very time-consuming. Good luck if you decide to do that eventually!
By the way, I got some feedback and suggestions again!
Arsenal:
You've updated Arsenal after my initial message and made Arsenal's Moon Lord weapons of the same class shimmerable into each other. I see why you've added this feature, but I'm not a very huge fan of it. I don't think it fits the feeling of the mod (being a Terraria Add-On). I don't see Shimmer as an ultimate solution to all of the grinding problems. Sure, it allows you to shimmer between some items, but these items are usually very rare (pirate invasion drops, Ankh Charm materials, etc.), unlike Moon Lord drops. Also, it makes getting Zenith weapons quicker which means most people will actually use pillar weapons and Moon Lord drops less (since Zenith things are obviously a lot stronger). I get it, these items are post-game (Zenith being a lot more powerful is an issue (for people who see it as an issue) from the base game), but there aren't actually a lot of goals after Moon Lord progression-wise. Besides, since this behaviour isn't present for Moon Lord drops for the base game, it hurts consistency a little bit.
Lastly, you've already Moonrazer and Moon Fist craftable and there is a Phantasmal Jewel, so I feel like shimmering is even slightly unneded. And there is an config option to make the jewel obtainable outside of master mode for people who don't want to play on that difficulty. This explanation is a bit too detailed for such a small feature, but I didn't intend it to be this way, haha!)
By the way, Moonrazer and Moon Fist can still crafted from the Phantasmal Jewel. I believe it's an oversight.
Aether's Blessing:
Firstly, I want to suggest a small mod compatibility feature. You've added an option to decraft permanent consumables and it'd be good to have such recipes for permanent consumables from Thorium and Clicker Class. Just for consistency.
Secondly, I recently got an interesting idea for a Genesis Conduit rework that I want to share. I'm not asking you to add it (obviously), just want to share it with you. Maybe you'll like it as well.
Currently Genesis Conduit is the most controversial item in the mod.
I'm not going to elaborate on that. Instead, I want to point out some things that can actually be seen as issues.
1. Firstly, as you already know, API limitations make it affect Goblin Tinkerer as well. At this point it doesn't just speed uo decrafting and actually heavily affects balancing. Even too much for Goblin Tinkerer haters, in my opinion))
There's an option to turn that off, but that option also has a side effect of disabling his reforging menu near the conduit. This is not very nice since it's not very obvious to the players (so, you can't just make the "restrict conduit" option enabled by deafault) and also I think a lot of people place goblin near the Aether biome in the base game because he likes being in caverns (that's also a clever way of using a Cavern Pylon in the base game, but the mod makes it less mandatory).
I know you can't do anything about this, unfortunately.
2. Secondly, the list of "good modifiers" needs to be tweaked in the config. Unfortunately, I've learned that a lot of people actually aren't very familiar with the config feature and some people just don't really think about the way conduit works when they download the mod. This leads to a lot of people getting confused since being near conduit without adjusting the config will make all modded prefixes unobtainable. This is even more of an issue if you're playing with a mod that adds a new class for obvious reasons. Thorium even has this mod mentioned in its FAQ.
It's sad that the current system doesn't really work as you've expected, but sometimes it's just how things turn out.
I have an idea for a potential rework that would be less buggy and more obvious, while still keeping the feel of what the item is supposed to do.
I feel like it should just reduce reforge prices when you're near it instead of neccessarily granting you the selected modifiers.
It makes reforging cheaper, makes it more user-friendly and less people would complain about it being OP. Basically, it would work as a placeable Club Goblin Card from your other mod.
It's just an idea, I don't ask you to implement it. Just want to know your opinion on it since the current conduit, unfortunately, has some issues.
If you do decide to add it, maybe you could add an option for the "legacy behaviour" since some people may really enjoy the current conduit and don't care about the points I've mentioned above.
BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
Hi again;
Arsenal:
I just fixed the outdated Phantasmal Jewel recipes.
Regarding shimmering ML drops, I put that in there on a whim because I recall from my experiences that I was always getting annoyed at how tedious it can be to get the ML drop you want. Even with this change there's still only a 1/4 chance you get the weapon that you want, so you've still gotta fight ML an average of 4 times for it. That is substantially lower than the 1/8 chance from before, though (But again, who wants to fight ML that many times?). You make a lot of good points, though, so I'll think about reverting the change later, maybe in Arsenal 1.5.2.
Aether's Blessing:
I may be able to add cross-mod support, I'll look into this when I get the chance.
Honestly, the Genesis Conduit's been a mess since I created it in many pretty obvious ways... Since I already have the Club Goblin Card in QoL 3000, reworking it into a discount seems kinda pointless/repetitive (At least for me, since I use them together, obviously). When I come back to it I think I'll just do away with it entirely since it's so broken, setting it to be disabled by default, but keeping a toggle for it as legacy behavior, like you suggested.
TOMKA
Terrarian
So, you've used your powers of modding to fight bad luck, haha!
As for the Genesis Conduit, it would be a bit sad to see it completely gone (because of the cool sprite), but I get your point.
Also, I find it funny how I've caused a small content update because of bugs I've found.
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BlockCrusader
Official Terrarian
Well when you put it that way...
(Still it's not like I changed the vanilla drops)
I won't completely remove the Conduit, just disable it by default. You'll still be able to get it if you enable it in the config.
I was too lazy to temporarily remove the 4 weapons I had made before releasing the patch so yeah
That said, they are in a finished state, so it's not like there was any reason to not let them go public.
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