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tModLoader Chen's Gradius Mod

blancfaye7

Terrarian
Mod is updated to 1.0.2
Just a bug fix! Aim Options will now properly spawn.
Thanks @Mr. Sandman for reporting this error!
Please wait for the Mod Browser to reflect these changes.

For Sumenora's concern, I'll try to think of ways on how to make limitations possible. One such limitation should just be projectile limit or duplication cooldown depending on player number. What do you think, @Sumenora? I think this will also ultimately address the lag these may cause.
 

blancfaye7

Terrarian
Mod is updated to 1.0.4
Yet another bug fix for multiplayer. The Equipment Rules are being shared across all players, hence why others aren't able to use them.
If there are more issues, contact us yet again. We will apply a fix ASAP.

Unfortunately, the Mod browser is not letting me upload this update, again.
Fetch the latest mod HERE.
 
While i grew up with side scrollers and classic games, this gem of a series wasn't one of them.

However the balance here seems to be way off, the enemies do too much damage and have far too much resistance, the boss alone can kill me with 2 hits while wearing the strongest gear in the game.
I feel like the only way your meant to play this IS to just spam weak projectiles. Which brings me my next point:

each Option practically doubles your DPS unless I'm missing something, but firing any non-piercing shots gets far more hits in on enemies.

Am I somehow missing something here and not seeing it? As it currently stands this mod seems really unbalanced
 

blancfaye7

Terrarian
While i grew up with side scrollers and classic games, this gem of a series wasn't one of them.

However the balance here seems to be way off, the enemies do too much damage and have far too much resistance, the boss alone can kill me with 2 hits while wearing the strongest gear in the game.
I feel like the only way your meant to play this IS to just spam weak projectiles. Which brings me my next point:

each Option practically doubles your DPS unless I'm missing something, but firing any non-piercing shots gets far more hits in on enemies.

Am I somehow missing something here and not seeing it? As it currently stands this mod seems really unbalanced
It is unbalanced. I will only balance it after I finish all the planned content. The mod is not actively being worked on right now, though. It is open source, so feel free to balance them as you see fit. I will still review them, however.
 
It is unbalanced. I will only balance it after I finish all the planned content. The mod is not actively being worked on right now, though. It is open source, so feel free to balance them as you see fit. I will still review them, however.
I get this mod is just mostly an idea right and balancing it to terraria's standards would be hard, so it's fine for a WIP, that's what a WIP is after all

Though I just discovered a bug that you might want to patch in the future versions: gradius enemies are spawning during moon events (pumpkin moon in this case), and from previous comments I've been reading they seem to be spawning during other events too, and very often due to highly increased spawn rates
PS: I want to add though I do love the enemies this mod adds, I'd say you made a far more interesting bullet-hell scenario than most modders have with the enemies here, honestly, can't wait to see how it's expanded on later on
 
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blancfaye7

Terrarian
I get this mod is just mostly an idea right and balancing it to terraria's standards would be hard, so it's fine for a WIP, that's what a WIP is after all

Though I just discovered a bug that you might want to patch in the future versions: gradius enemies are spawning during moon events (pumpkin moon in this case), and from previous comments I've been reading they seem to be spawning during other events too, and very often due to highly increased spawn rates
Noted. I'll make sure this is worked on. They shouldn't be spawning freely in these modes.

For reference, I've made an issue. Gradius Enemies spawning in events as well · Issue #216 · cheeeeeeeeeen/Chens-Gradius-Mod

Thank you!
 
Ok it skipped my mind, but I did have an idea to help balance this mod later on:

Since this mod is largely for rangers and to a lesser extent, mages, I was thinking that each Option would consume ammo and mana respectively.
You want to fire 4 bullets? that will cost you 4 bullets
you want to fire 4 ichor beams (though really for this to be effective, you need to use non-piercing projectiles), it will cost you mana per projectile created (if you have only enough for 2 projectiles, the 3rd and 4th option won't spawn anything)

I think this is a decent start but oh course it'll need more work then this, but I think this alone will add a sizable drawback to using Options, on top of the fact that eat up accessory slots (which I personally feel is good choice IMO, as you have to sacrifice accessories to have more Option drones)


As far as other bugs go, the mod does some funky stuff with summon and melee items that spawn projectiles, but lets be honest that's to be expected and it's not really this mod's fault due to how the game handles these. (minions and projectile-based melee weapons like spears)
 

blancfaye7

Terrarian
Mod is updated to 1.0.5
Just a bug fix regarding enemies. No more NPC butchering!... or maybe there still is.
Here are the changes:

  • Modified enemy spawn chances
  • Rush no longer spawns randomly like regular enemies
  • Rush will now only spawn through Dagoom hatches
  • All Gradius enemies will no longer spawn if the player is in an NPC town or inside a home
It is up on Mod browser. grab that update and have fun!

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Since this mod is largely for rangers and to a lesser extent, mages, I was thinking that each Option would consume ammo and mana respectively.
You want to fire 4 bullets? that will cost you 4 bullets
you want to fire 4 ichor beams (though really for this to be effective, you need to use non-piercing projectiles), it will cost you mana per projectile created (if you have only enough for 2 projectiles, the 3rd and 4th option won't spawn anything)
This is possible, but I'd wait for the future Terraria update in handling these. There might be a better way. There's a few walls I came across with when implementing these. What if they have a custom mana? What if the weapon takes lives instead? It can become too customized that I might not be able to cover everything up... hence why brings me to the next point:

As far as other bugs go, the mod does some funky stuff with summon and melee items that spawn projectiles, but lets be honest that's to be expected and it's not really this mod's fault due to how the game handles these. (minions and projectile-based melee weapons like spears)
This. Before, I had a master rule list to fix everything. I just got tired of it. It's too many of them with all the complex implementations. Even vanilla weapons themselves do not have a standard!

I changed everything into a safe and general solution: use item.ammo for these. All the other projectiles in a Shoot() override won't be duplicated as a result. I use the excuse of it being balanced, it seems.

As a result, a lot of cool weapons lost their charm. Onyx Blaster isn't being duped anymore. I myself am debating if I should just continue with the option Rule List again, but... it's just too much work.
 
I got an easy fix, allow it if the weapon in question isn't a modded weapon (item.modItem.mod==null)
modded weapons are the ones that keep causing issues mostly when the game is trying to dupe their projectiles

The mod is really neat, but the largest issue here is what your trying to do in Terraria just doesn't mesh well with terraria and, as you stated "weapons themselves do not have a standard! " (the option drones, I mean, the enemies are a fine addition that liven caving quite a bit)
 
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