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Crimson & Corruption: Fishing Balances [Sprites]

Discussion in 'Items' started by MiltVala, Apr 6, 2015.

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Chasm perch should....

  1. be usable in Heart Reach Potions

    52.4%
  2. be used in a mana star attraction potion

    19.0%
  3. be used for a new, unique potion

    28.6%
  1. MiltVala

    MiltVala Plantera

    Crimson and Corruption fishing balances.png

    Corruption gets the Purple Clubberfish, a slow but decent early-mid prehardmode broadsword weapon. Crimson gets Heart Reach potions, one of the most useful potion in the game.
    That means if your world has Corruption, no heart reach, in crimson, no Clubberfish for early game.

    Not exactly balanced is it?

    [​IMG]

    Introducing: A simple way to balance out evil biome fishing
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    Corruption

    The Purple Clubberfish is all cool and everything, but the only use it has is for early-mid prehardmode.

    What I purpose is to have a fish for Corruption to balance out the Crimson Tigerfish.

    But first off, the Purple Clubberfish is pretty underpowered, so let's buff it and give it hammer power (proposed by @SzGamer227 )

    [​IMG]

    Purple Clubberfish

    Type: Tool (Hammer)
    Damage: 36 (from 24)
    Power: 60%
    Knockback: 7
    Max stack: 1
    Rarity: [​IMG]
    Use time: 34 (slow)
    Sell: [​IMG] x1

    Chasm Perch.png

    Chasm Perch

    Rarity: [​IMG]
    Sell: 7 [​IMG] 50 [​IMG]

    Can be caught in the Corruption at any elevation.


    The catch rate of these will be 1:7, along with Ebonkoi which should also have this rate (currently 1:24)

    These could either also be used in Heart reach potions, or alternatively, a new and different potion.

    Here are a few concepts

    Potion vile.png

    Vile Potion

    Type: Potion
    Max stack: 30
    Rarity: [​IMG]
    Use time: 16
    Tooltip: Attacks send vile spit hurdling toward enemies
    Grants Buff: buff vile shots.png Vile Shots
    Buff Duration: 8 minutes
    Buff Tooltip: Attacks shoot Vile spit
    Sell: 2 [​IMG]

    So, what the vile potion does is send vile spit flying toward your enemy each time you hit an enemy (like the Orichalcum set bonus). These attacks have less velocity, wall hack, and deal damage equal to the target's defense (caps at 50 damage). And just to make it fair, only two shots can be fired per second.

    potion shadow step.png

    Shadow Potion

    Type: Potion
    Max stack: 30
    Rarity: [​IMG]
    Use time: 16
    Tooltip: Grants a 10% dodge chance
    Grants Buff: buff shadow step.png Shadow Step
    Buff Duration: 8 minutes
    Buff Tooltip: You have a 10% change to dodge all damage
    Sell: 2 [​IMG]

    Pretty self explanatory. Not sure if it should stack with the black belt/ master ninja gear.

    potion star fall.png

    Starfall Potion

    Type: Potion
    Max stack: 30
    Rarity: [​IMG]
    Use time: 16
    Tooltip: Increases pickup range for mana stars
    Grants Buff: buff Star fall.png Starfall
    Buff Duration: 8 minutes
    Buff Tooltip: Increased mana star pickup range
    Sell: 2 [​IMG]

    A bit iffy with this one as it caters to magic weapons only. Self explanatory, would probably stack with the Celestial cuffs/emblem.
    Name suggested by @Firearrow15

    All potions will be crafted with Chasm Perch, Daybloom, Moonglow, and bottled water at an alchemy station.


    [​IMG]

    Crimson

    If you get crimson, you won't be getting any nifty fishing weapons.

    Meet the Slaughter head, a faster, lower damage broadsword type weapon to balance that out.

    Slaughter Head.png

    Slaughter Head

    Type: Tool (axe)
    Damage: 30
    Power: 75%
    Knockback: 5
    Max stack: 1
    Rarity: [​IMG]
    Use time: 27 (average)
    Sell: [​IMG] x1

    Type: Weapon (broadsword)
    Damage: 20
    Knockback: 5
    Max stack: 1
    Rarity: [​IMG]
    Use time: 27 (average)
    Sell: [​IMG] x1
    Simple enough right? Catch rate would be identical to the Purple Clubberfish (1:50)

    [​IMG]

    Pretty simple right? Feedback is always appreciated! [​IMG]

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  2. Teal

    Teal Eater of Worlds

    I'd vote but there is no hammer option, I jest.
     
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  3. Headless Horseman

    Headless Horseman Steampunker

    Great idea ;D
     
  4. Murphmario

    Murphmario Retinazer

    What about these guys: [​IMG][​IMG]

    They have the same status as the ones you suggested: only obtainable in one world. Otherwise support.
     
  5. MiltVala

    MiltVala Plantera

    Ebonkoi and Hemopiranha are counterparts, one buffs crit, the other buffs damage. So I chose to leave them alone. The two I listed here have no counterparts.
     
  6. Teal

    Teal Eater of Worlds

    Which is why I voted for "mana star attraction." It creates a counterpart as opposed to the same potion. A good name for it might be "Mana Cry Potion"
     
  7. Firearrow15

    Firearrow15 Skeletron

    I like this. I always thought it was weird that Corruption had a weapon instead of a potion fish. I usually only fish at endgame, so the purple cluberfish is basically useless to me.

    I like the mana-star attraction potion, because it is a counterpart like the above said. The effects should stack with the celestial magnet, or else it would be overshadowed by the accessory with the same effects.
    Maybe call it the starfall potion?
     
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  8. MiltVala

    MiltVala Plantera

    If the effect didn't stack, it would be pretty damn useless [​IMG]

    I'll be contemplating future potion names, but I do like the sound of Star Fall.
     
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  9. Nobody Important

    Nobody Important Terrarian

    Another fish based weapon? Sold. I support.
     
  10. ppowersteef

    ppowersteef Paladin

    Not really that I use fish weapons or potions a lot, but I didn't know that only crimson worlds has heartreach potions (yeah, I've ever crafted them)

    Support for surviving invasions in corruption.
     
  11. SzGamer227

    SzGamer227 Golem

    [​IMG]

    Everything looks good, and the sprites are as good as ever, so you've one my support. :)

    Anyways, as for the Chasm Perch, I'd rather it be used for some sort of support Potion other than Heartreach (because Hearts are more of the Crimson's thing than the Corruption), but also something that isn't Mana related. I already am uncomfortable with how Corruption gets a number of Magic accessories that Crimson doesn't, and a magic-oriented Potion would make it even worse. I'd say something stealth-related would fit nicely... maybe a Potion which makes the user semi-transparent and gives them a chance to dodge attacks?
     
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  12. bad_news

    bad_news Golem

    One thing to keep in mind is that the celestial magnet and its upgrades already do the same thing as the heartreach potion with mana stars. That said, I don't necessarily think having the Chasm Perch used in Heartreach potions also would be the best thing. Otherwise, though, support!
     
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  13. 652Graystripe

    652Graystripe Plantera

    Clubberfish is a hammer...?
    We need heart reach accessories.
     
  14. MiltVala

    MiltVala Plantera

    It isn’t. Rockfish is a hammer.
     
  15. 652Graystripe

    652Graystripe Plantera

    Ah, dammit, I forgot. Sorry. Getting mixed up.
    /tfw 2tired4me
     
  16. SnailsAttack

    SnailsAttack Dungeon Spirit

    Nice sprites, and very well formatted. I like this idea, and I feel that it should grow a lot, because a lot of people have problems with fishing. For example, this [​IMG] and this [​IMG] are more than a little annoying to not have in certain worlds.
     
  17. SzGamer227

    SzGamer227 Golem

    Wrath Potion and Rage Potion are Corruption/Crimson counterparts of each other. -_- In fact, using them both is actually a bit cheat-y.
     
  18. SnailsAttack

    SnailsAttack Dungeon Spirit

    Actually, the wrath potion increases damage by 10% whereas the rage potion increases critical hits by 10%.
     
  19. SzGamer227

    SzGamer227 Golem

    Exactly. They both provide a +10% combat bonus. Wrath Potion is obtained in the Corruption. Rage Potion is obtained in the Crimson. They are both obtained just as easily as each other, and in the same exact way; Wrath Potion requires you to catch Ebonkoi while Rage requires you to catch Hemopiranha, which can then be combined with Deathweed to obtain the respective potion.

    I don't get how you don't realize that they are counterparts of each other.
     
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  20. SnailsAttack

    SnailsAttack Dungeon Spirit

    I just mean that theres a difference between 10% extra damage and a 10% higher crit chance... I think?