Is the Clockwork assault rifle REALLY that bad?

[Xylia]

Technically you don’t even need to kill the evil boss. You can kill less than half of boc’s creepers (including in master mode where the droprates are nerfed, where you need to only kill 8/20 of them) and then on average you’ll have enough tissue samples to craft an evil pickaxe without even finishing the fight, which means you can underprepare for the boss and still get the reward even if you fail, which is silly.

Well, yeah, I meant fight the boss, lol. But that would take a few summons as the final kill of the boss gives a bunch of the item + ore IIRC.

Either way... getting a PB early isn't that hard.

 

[Dapling]

Well, yeah, I meant fight the boss, lol. But that would take a few summons as the final kill of the boss gives a bunch of the item + ore IIRC.

Either way... getting a PB early isn't that hard.

You need 6 tissue samples for the pickaxe, and you only need to kill 8 creepers for that many to drop on average. This is less than half of 1 phase of the boc fight.

 

[Xylia]

You need 6 tissue samples for the pickaxe, and you only need to kill 8 creepers for that many to drop on average.

If you were speedrunning the PB and nothing but the PB, sure... but I'd probably want the armor too were I to do something like that. Especially if it were the Shadow Armor.

 

[Dapling]

If you were speedrunning the PB and nothing but the PB, sure... but I'd probably want the armor too were I to do something like that. Especially if it were the Shadow Armor.

Fair enough.

 

[TheForkG]

I'd say it's a really good gun, especially if you use it for the Destroyer with party bullets

I haven't tried it in a while but I absolutely shredded the Destroyer with it

 

[Dapling]

I'd say it's a really good gun, especially if you use it for the Destroyer with party bullets

I haven't tried it in a while but I absolutely shredded the Destroyer with it

Can you post a kill time of how long that took? That seems genuinely insane for a non piercing weapon.

 

[Johnathan Morrow]

Without the CAR, I never would’ve beat the Destroyer on my Xbox360, it was such a goated weapon, and I didn’t even know classes were a thing back then, lol.

 

[Dapling]

Can you post a kill time of how long that took? That seems genuinely insane for a non piercing weapon.

What the actual I played with a hyper-minmaxed and optimized dps build and every buff under the sun and I couldn't get a destroyer killtime under 2 and a half minutes in classic mode with CAR + party bullets
what is even happening
why are multiple people saying this weapon is shredding destroyer without explosive bullets??? Were they using the glitched version that got patched????
I can't anymore.

Edit: EVEN WITH EXPLOSIVE BULLETS I CAN'T GET A TIME LOWER THAN 1:50 IN CLASSIC DIFFICULTY WHAT IS HAPPENING

 

[Meowlegend]

What the actual I played with a hyper-minmaxed and optimized dps build and every buff under the sun and I couldn't get a destroyer killtime under 2 and a half minutes in classic mode with CAR + party bullets
what is even happening
why are multiple people saying this weapon is shredding destroyer without explosive bullets??? Were they using the glitched version that got patched????
I can't anymore.

Edit: EVEN WITH EXPLOSIVE BULLETS I CAN'T GET A TIME LOWER THAN 1:50 IN CLASSIC DIFFICULTY WHAT IS HAPPENING

I tried it like, 30 minutes ago too. Yeah, it doesn't shred Destroyer, it doesn't even come close.

 

[Xylia]

My favorite "Destroyer Shredder" is the Bladetongue, lol. At least on Classic.

I don't play Expert.

I know the Baghnaks are probably faster, but meh. I don't like the ridiculously small range on them.

But yeah, the CAR? Frick no. I wouldn't even use a Megashark on the Destroyer.

 

[Meowlegend]

I don't play Expert

Why?

 

[Xylia]

Why?

I'm 45, my reactions and motor control is nowhere near as good as it once was, and I don't really have patience for dying repeatedly, and I don't play games for challenge, I play them to relax and pass the time.

I'm a guy who cleared Battletoads and TMNT2 on the same day with no cheat devices (because my game genie would not fit in the top-loading NES I had bought a few months prior), but that was way back in my late teens-early 20s.

 

[The Rope God🌳]

That thing is great against the Twins at least, not even counting Queen slime and I was about to mention Cryogen

It's decent again skeletron prime and will help if you're trying to get the Onyx Blaster.

 

[HotAirBalloon🐿️]

Clockwork assault rifle is fine. It’s not terrible but it’s not particularly great either.

I know I look and talk like I’m especially prone to this but I also consistently run builds like this in post golem:

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I feel like eventually I progressed past the point of optimizing the fun out of the game into complete “build insanity/anarchism” after a while. I was using a ranger weapon on this build for reference.

I have occasionally tried to reverse this but every time I do that I just fall back into optimizing and despite more and more thorough and redundant experimentation it ends up just gravitating towards the same thing every time.

So basically, I find using weapons which are weird and aren’t super impressive or “top tier” (like clockwork assault rifle, and my favorite weapon in the game, proximity mine launcher) is a great way to “pseudo optimize” while still playing the game in new and fun ways, so maybe I should start preaching that instead of the optimal solution (as I see it) all the time. It’s probably been long enough for me to put the latter to rest.

DAPLING IS USING TERRASPARK COMPONENT AND NOT AMPHIBISN BOOTS????

I think the car is okay, it'll do the job in earlyhm.

 

[Dapling]

DAPLING IS USING TERRASPARK COMPONENT AND NOT AMPHIBISN BOOTS????

I think the car is okay, it'll do the job in earlyhm.

i’m not using any terraspark components actually. Those are Hellfire Treads made from spectre boots + flamewaker boots
But I am using ankh shield, which I consider pretty bad and have been pretty vocal about it for years lol
Mounts don’t need boots, period. I can comfortably make them work with no mobility accessories at all and still handle every boss in the game just fine.

 

[HotAirBalloon🐿️]

i’m not using any terraspark components actually. Those are Hellfire Treads made from spectre boots + flamewaker boots

Oh. I forgot about those.

But I am using ankh shield, which I consider pretty bad and have been pretty vocal about it for years lol

Then why are you using it?

Mounts don’t need boots, period. I can comfortably make them work with no mobility accessories at all and still handle every boss in the game just fine

Fair. I use mounts and wings though, so I disagree.

 

[Dapling]

Then why are you using it?

I’ve already killed everything optimally enough, I’ve been playing this game since 1.1 across 4 different platforms after all. I care more about having fun and doing silly experiments in silly ways than being efficient or optimal now. I can save that stuff for mods.
I still do run tests and checks on items to keep my knowledge up to date, though.

 

[HotAirBalloon🐿️]

I’ve already killed everything optimally enough, I’ve been playing this game since 1.1 across 4 different platforms after all. I care more about having fun and doing silly experiments in silly ways than being efficient or optimal now. I can save that stuff for mods.
I still do run tests and checks on items to keep my knowledge up to date, though.

Fair, although I find it fun to be more optimal. also ankh shiekd is grindh and i hate grinding

 

[Dispenser (Engineer)]

Does it matter if the CAR is not a boss shredder? It's not horrible and it is good enough to help the player pick up some HM weapons a bit more easily which is all it needs to do.

 

[Coleyohley]

Does it matter if the CAR is not a boss shredder? It's not horrible and it is good enough to help the player pick up some HM weapons a bit more easily which is all it needs to do.

It's not a bad weapon by any means, but everything else around it has been improved so much that it's no longer nearly the standout gun it used to be. Most notably, Phoenix Blaster is only barely behind it in terms of DPS, and that weapon is available much earlier in the game. Clockwork Assault Rifle is still a fine weapon, it's just not a very exciting choice anymore.