Other New idea for the Ultimate Accessories and Armor for endgame!

[Obidiah]

These are off-topic, but cool

It was an idea I had watching the Mouse familiar in the 1.4.5 trailer.

 

[Obidiah]

Messing with enemy AI is too risky. It'd be a lot of effort to code as well.

They already have the flight physics from the balloon slimes, what would be so hard?

 

[Asternove]

Let say you don’t have an item needed to craft the ankh shield and you have extra of others; instead of just shimmering them, why not let the goblin tinker trade you for what you need at a price though in early stages.

Maybe… idk feels like that’s what shimmer is for

Won't it make all those expert accessories more useful. Also if it's post-ML, of course it makes sense that's it outclasses other stuff. That's literally the Zenith.

Even then you want creativity. I don’t want an accessory that so overpowered you feel like you have to use it.

You don't really have to use the most optimized thing every playthrough. If you're bored - try something new!

That’s why it should still be just as good as your first pick.

They already have the flight physics from the balloon slimes, what would be so hard?

Making every AI type behave properly with it.

 

[Obidiah]

Way too grindy (that's like 30+ ML kills,) way too good, Accessory combos don't add other materials, and endgame already streamlines progression too much. Also, what's with the reduced damage and vanity stuff? That's unintuitive and goes against the point of vanity as a whole.

All of Terraria is a grind my friend, the damage being reduced is the penalty for not following the rule of vanity items, imagine having chlorophyte amor in your vanity as you rock Eldritch Lord Armor. You can have the turret from chlorophyte armor, it would add the damage increase from your Eldritch Lord armor. All mega combinations of accessories will be grind heavy, so only the best players will trudge through to get this gear.

 

[Asternove]

All of Terraria is a grind my friend,

Like what? Nothing save for a few niche items is even close to this bad.

the damage being reduced is the penalty for not following the rule of vanity items, imagine having chlorophyte amor in your vanity as you rock Eldritch Lord Armor. You can have the turret from chlorophyte armor, it would add the damage increase from your Eldritch Lord armor. All mega combinations of accessories will be grind heavy, so only the best players will trudge through to get this gear.

Isn’t balance thrown out the window by now though? What if I want to wear whatever I want in the vanity?

 

[Obidiah]

I totally agree. If you want to lean into one stat, you gotta sacrifice others. You can't really just make a "perfect" load out with every stat being good (although it would be nice). You want damage, you sacrifice defense and mobility ,and so on.

I see where others feel dejected about combined accessories, what if you had to sacrifice the potency of random accessories when you craft them together? What if the ankh shield only blocks %50 of debuffs instead of all of them?

 

[Obidiah]

I like the addition of moles to the game, but I'm worried that the Terrarians will want to...eat him.
I also really like the idea of "flight darts", if they only work on weak mobs.However, I think it would be wise to give the " balloon effect " a limited duration.

They would scurry away if you get close enough. The effect would effect weak mobs but maybe also boss minions lasting 15-30 seconds.

 

[Asternove]

I see where others feel dejected about combined accessories,

Because it’s rather boring to not have a choice in what to use

what if you had to sacrifice the potency of random accessories when you craft them together?

Avenger Emblem + Power Glove is actually better than Mechanical Glove because the AE effects all classes.

What if the ankh shield only blocks %50 of debuffs instead of all of them?

It protects from less than half actually

 

[Obidiah]

Exactly I like the idea of ultimate accessories they just ruin the idea of stat building

But what if you had to choose which stats are prominent and which are downgraded when creating combined accessories?

 

[Asternove]

But what if you had to choose which stats are prominent and which are downgraded when creating combined accessories?

Then what’s the point of the downgraded ones?

 

[Obidiah]

I don't like the mole one- if it destroys blocks it would grief worlds.

It would replace the dirt it dug as it tunnels.

 

[Obidiah]

What? Making it so most optimized runs have the same weapon eternally used unless you are going absolutely crazy risky.

Imagine having 2 different players who get the exact same mega combination accessory, one may have higher defensive buffs with melee buffs and the other has more offensive buffs with mage buffs. It would depend on what characteristics you’d want to use and be a beast to grind for.

 

[Asternove]

Imagine having 2 different players who get the exact same mega combination accessory, one may have higher defensive buffs with melee buffs and the other has more offensive buffs with mage buffs. It would depend on what characteristics you’d want to use and be a beast to grind for.

…then just have two separate accessories. Better yet, encourage diversity and have multiple weaker accessories.

 

[Obidiah]

That is way too difficult

Not for the people who grind master mode Moon Lord like he’s King Slime, I’ve seen videos of people defeating one after the other. Also there’s ways to cheese the Eternal Crystal Waves, I’ve beaten the last wave within 3 min of the first wave spawning. Traps help but man does an arena help with farming them.

 

[Asternove]

Not for the people who grind master mode Moon Lord like he’s King Slime, I’ve seen videos of people defeating one after the other.

Not everyone can do that.

Also there’s ways to cheese the Eternal Crystal Waves, I’ve beaten the last wave within 3 min of the first wave spawning. Traps help but man does an arena help with farming them.

Cheese shouldn’t be practically required.

 

[Obidiah]

Maybe… idk feels like that’s what shimmer is for

Yeah, but have you had a time where you were not feeling going to the shimmer biome early game but still need an accessory swap?

 

[Asternove]

Yeah, but have you had a time where you were not feeling going to the shimmer biome early game but still need an accessory swap?

No not really

 

[ThatMossCreep]

I have mixed opinions on the original topic, but I'd like to say this.
I know I'm not a mod or admin, but I really don't want to see anyone getting any warnings, and this feels like it's getting awfully close to shouty. Please calm down?

 

[Asternove]

I have mixed opinions on the original topic, but I'd like to say this.
I know I'm not a mod or admin, but I really don't want to see anyone getting any warnings, and this feels like it's getting awfully close to shouty. Please calm down?

It is? I didn’t notice.

Gah I have terrible people skills

 

[ThatMossCreep]

It is? I didn’t notice.

Gah I have terrible people skills

I was seeing a pattern I've seen elsewhere on the forums, where only two people are having a discussion and they keep quickly replying with short sentences and only trying to get rid of the opponent's point without supporting their own.

And your people skills seem fine to me.