I haven't read the books yet, so I don't know first hand, however most reviews and people's opinions I've heard seem to suggest that the show does a very good job of following the books. There are some bits and pieces that differ or are changed but I guess that's to be expected when books go to tv/movie. I'm a big fan of the show and am looking forward to it's return. Whether or not it's overrated? Hard to say for me really.I've never seen the show but the books are excellent. If they follows the books accurately I can't say I can agree here.
I definitely disagree with this one. That show deserves all the accolades and adulation it got. One of the best television series I had seen in a long time, from start to finish.Breaking bad
There's a huge difference in how each show goes about it. Adventure Time is the same type of series as something like Spongebob. It's episodic. There's no main storyline. The characters don't change, and why would you expect them to? Each "adventure" lasts for a single episode and is more or less its own thing.I'd disagree. As I said, to me, they seem to be going towards the same goal: an epic adventure with good characters. And with that in mind, Avatar is by far a better example of that type of show than Adventure Time.
You say that, and then Adventure Time attempts to have it both ways. Remember the Lich King, and how that snail worked it's way into every episode? It tried to make it be in a lot of episodes, and yet it was often pushed to the side, so that it was often forgotten as multiple singular episodes went by with no mention of the previous adventures. On a personal preference note, I just prefer shows with continuous plots, so I am in no way unbiased. But anyone can see that the writers tried to overextend themselves, and fell flat in many areas as a result.There's a huge difference in how each show goes about it. Adventure Time is the same type of series as something like Spongebob. It's episodic. There's no main storyline. The characters don't change, and why would you expect them to? Each "adventure" lasts for a single episode and is more or less its own thing.
To me, none of the characters are memorable, or at least not memorable in a good way. I often compare Adventure Time to Avatar the Last Airbender, as they are trying to accomplish similar things: build an elaborate and mystical/captivating world, have fun and deep characters, and incorporate fictional plot points into an at least semi-realistic world. For the first point, I can't personally get engrossed into the world of Ooo or however that's spelled. It feels like I'm in a fever dream, or that someone just wrote down the first things that came to their minds. Avatar, on the other hand, has exquisite introductions of how the world works, which is dealt with within seconds of each episode's opening sequence. Secondly, the characters in Adventure Time are utterly nonsensical. They make up words that, instead of being charming and funny, make me think that everyone has some sort of level of schizophrenia and needs help. And if the world itself is odd, the characters in the world are even worse. Their names are basically their defining characteristics, and they rarely change their personalities, or if they do, it's fifty episodes in, when I had already moved on to a better show. Avatar's characters are renowned for how much they change. Aang goes from being an immature child to a bringer of peace. Katara comes to terms with the murder of her mother. Even Zuko, one of the main villains, changes his entire being to join the side of peace. The list goes on. Finally, Avatar has many points of realism in it's show, making it feel plausible, and, more importantly, relatable. In Adventure Time's case, they change the rules of what is allowed that Finn and Jake might as well snap their fingers and declare themselves gods. If the characters don't take things seriously, why should I?
I understand that people all like different things, and I can respect that, but something fascinates me about people that like Adventure Time. Is it a form of escape from thinking in general? Because it seems like visual drugs to me: it takes you to a strange world, where there is no sense or logic, and you just sit there and enjoy it, without questioning what you're seeing. I see the error of my comparison now. It was like trying to compare Sherlock Holmes to Scooby Doo. This is why I say it is drenched in modern ideals: it doesn't want to question the viewer, and it doesn't want to be questioned, which epitomizes what modern youth love: mindless enjoyment. It doesn't add anything or take anything. It exists to exist, and benefits no one but the creators.snip
I understand that people all like different things, and I can respect that, but something fascinates me about people that like Adventure Time. Is it a form of escape from thinking in general? Because it seems like visual drugs to me: it takes you to a strange world, where there is no sense or logic, and you just sit there and enjoy it, without questioning what you're seeing.
I see the error of my comparison now. It was like trying to compare Sherlock Holmes to Scooby Doo.
This is why I say it is drenched in modern ideals: it doesn't want to question the viewer, and it doesn't want to be questioned, which epitomizes what modern youth love: mindless enjoyment.
It doesn't add anything or take anything. It exists to exist, and benefits no one but the creators.
The snail? What does that have to do with the show trying to have a continuous story line? The snail is more of an Easter egg than anything else. From the beginning of the show, it was hidden in every single episode anyway. It just comes in to play a minor role every now and then, nothing more.You say that, and then Adventure Time attempts to have it both ways. Remember the Lich King, and how that snail worked it's way into every episode? It tried to make it be in a lot of episodes, and yet it was often pushed to the side, so that it was often forgotten as multiple singular episodes went by with no mention of the previous adventures. On a personal preference note, I just prefer shows with continuous plots, so I am in no way unbiased. But anyone can see that the writers tried to overextend themselves, and fell flat in many areas as a result.
I really don't feel like getting warning points for starting a flame war or derailing the thread, so I'll attempt to stop after this. But I just have to say how amusing it is that you make so many classic errors in this debate. Bringing personal details such as age into the conversation? Funny. I know people younger than me that are more mature than most people will ever be, and people older than you that act like immature nuisances. Age does not correlate to maturity. Speaking of maturity, I at least made multiple disclaimers that people can like whatever they want, and that I am in no way unbiased. You, on the other hand, claim that I am "terribly unqualified" to have an opinion on a show. I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had studied the great cartoons of the ages and know every nuance of good television programming.snip
I thought that the Lich King possessed the snail or something. Perhaps I just missed some plot point. Everything I say should of course be taken with a grain of salt, as I haven't watched every single episode of the show in question, and my opinions are more based on a first impression of Adventure Time.The snail? What does that have to do with the show trying to have a continuous story line? The snail is more of an Easter egg than anything else. From the beginning of the show, it was hidden in every single episode anyway. It just comes in to play a minor role every now and then, nothing more.
All girls are sick and twisted until proven innocent.Maybe that's why they enjoy it, I don't know.
I really don't feel like getting warning points for starting a flame war or derailing the thread, so I'll attempt to stop after this. But I just have to say how amusing it is that you make so many classic errors in this debate. Bringing personal details such as age into the conversation? Funny. I know people younger than me that are more mature than most people will ever be, and people older than you that act like immature nuisances. Age does not correlate to maturity. Speaking of maturity, I at least made multiple disclaimers that people can like whatever they want, and that I am in no way unbiased. You, on the other hand, claim that I am "terribly unqualified" to have an opinion on a show. I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had studied the great cartoons of the ages and know every nuance of good television programming.
I love that show tho! Freak Show is one of my favs.American Horror Story. I hear a bunch of girls in my school talk about it, but it just seems sick and twisted. Maybe that's why they enjoy it, I don't know.
I like Adventure Time since they never have two episodes that are alike. Even if one follows up another, it adds something new. And sometimes it's just plain goofy.lol @ the people saying shows are overrated that they've never watched.
Seriously though? Game of Thrones and Breaking bad are fantastic shows. And Adventure Time is extremely fun to watch.
As for what I think is overrated; Once Upon a Time and that Batman show (Gotham). I tolerated the first season of OUaT, but after that...
And Gotham? After the first episode I nope'd out of there. Bad acting and awkward scripting.
Yeah, I recently got Season 4 on DVD and I noticed a lot of that happening...Not trying to prove anything not already said, just thought this would be relevant to the adventure time debate and how the series doesn't take itself seriously.
Tv tropes' "Gainax ending" trope has a page just for the use of it in adventure time.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GainaxEnding
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/GainaxEnding/AdventureTime
So yeah, might be relevant.