Game Mechanics Quick should buff build placement speed

[Heath04🌳]

Just as the title says, the Quick modifier should buff build placement speed. Easily one of the least used modifiers in the game so having it also buff build placement speed shouldn't be an issue.

I'm not much of a math guy so I don't know what percentages are needed to balance out walking speed and building speed. Currently if you're walking 15/16 mph then you can build without having to tap, which 15 mph is the base walking speed so I'm pretty sure it will work together. I don't know if there will be a conflict there but if so it should be easy to iron out.

 

[Meowlegend]

Honestly, no. Instead, they should make the Quick modifier increase the movement speed AND speed of mounts and wings. This way it can have better uses. Warding will still be better tho

 

[Heath04🌳]

Honestly, no. Instead, they should make the Quick modifier increase the movement speed AND speed of mounts and wings. This way it can have better uses. Warding will still be better tho

This wouldn't improve the usability of Quick at all, this would honestly do nothing. I'm trying to make a suggestion for builders since the game is currently lacking in building speed buffs.

 

[Meowlegend]

This wouldn't improve the usability of Quick at all, this would honestly do nothing.

It would improve, wing and mount speed is really good and if you can make it faster from a modifier thats a really good advantage

And no, the game isnt lacking with building speed buffs at all, hand of creation, builder potion and a few others I forgot are all enough. Hell, even the hand of creation is enough. You thinking "building speed buffs are lacking" is wrong when the building speed buffs are extremely good by themselfs anyway. Instead of adding more building speed buffs when there is already enough, you should improve items like Terraspark boots.

 

[Heath04🌳]

It would improve, wing and mount speed is really good and if you can make it faster from a modifier thats a really good advantage

Making mounts faster with a modifier is the worst use of a modifier, you can simply get a better mount if you think yours is too slow. Which the fastest mounts are around 80mph which I don't think you need to go much faster.

And no, the game isnt lacking with building speed buffs at all, hand of creation, builder potion and a few others I forgot are all enough. Hell, even the hand of creation is enough. You thinking "building speed buffs are lacking" is wrong when the building speed buffs are extremely good by themselfs anyway.

You have:
Brick Layer
Builder Potion
Ambrosia

For a total of 80% building speed. Like I said, max build speed lets you walk at base speed and place at the same time. That is SLOW.

I went ahead and did all of the testing, to coast and build you are moving very slowly. It is not enough to outpace most mobs. I don't know if you're a frequent builder, but I create maps more often than not am I forced to use TEdit since I don't wanna put all my time into placing a singular line down walking at 16 mph.

There is another issue with placing walls, placing walls in this game in a large quantity is very slow. Ideally I'd want this buff to be a modifier since it's not taking up any extra inventory space or accessory slots.

Instead of adding more building speed buffs when there is already enough, you should improve items like Terraspark boots.

They really don't need a buff, Terra Spark boots are great. Most mounts are really good, there is not a good enough reason to buff them. Even if I agreed that would be a good idea, there is no reason it can't be also added. I'm not asking for it to completely replace the speed boost, I am simply saying it should ALSO buff building speed.

 

[Meowlegend]

Making mounts faster with a modifier is the worst use of a modifier, you can simply get a better mount if you think yours is too slow. Which the fastest mounts are around 80mph which I don't think you need to go much faster.

Mounts will be forever sluggish no matter how fast they are. Wings would get the most benefit, and this modifier would be a godsave for them because wing speed is just that good. That change you are claiming to "would not do anything" can change a lot.

You know how good wings are in hardmode? You know how dashes are game changing? Yes, mobility can be game changing. This modifier that would increase your ground movement speed and wing accelaretion speed, can be extremely good. Personally, if it increased wing accelaretion speed I would use Quick. I am a fan of speedy mobility.

For a total of 80% building speed. Like I said, max build speed lets you walk at base speed and place at the same time. That is SLOW.

The last time I builded was when I was building a asphalt Moonlord skybridge, and I had ambrosia and brick layer, not even a builder potion. And the speed was already really good. I dont know what are you talking about.

There is another issue with placing walls, placing walls in this game in a large quantity is very slow

Okay, you have a point here.

They really don't need a buff, Terra Spark boots are great

They do

I'm not asking for it to completely replace the speed boost, I am simply saying it should ALSO buff building speed.

, I was understanding it wrong. If this is the case then I am supporting, but I still think Quick should also increase wing accelaretion speed.

 

[Heath04🌳]

Mounts will be forever sluggish no matter how fast they are. Wings would get the most benefit, and this modifier would be a godsave for them because wing speed is just that good. That change you are claiming to "would not do anything" can change a lot.

You know how good wings are in hardmode? You know how dashes are game changing? Yes, mobility can be game changing. This modifier that would increase your ground movement speed and wing accelaretion speed, can be extremely good. Personally, if it increased wing accelaretion speed I would use Quick. I am a fan of speedy mobility.

If that change would make you use quick then all power to you, but for me personally I don't see it impacting my playstyle at all.

The last time I builded was when I was building a asphalt Moonlord skybridge, and I had ambrosia and brick layer, not even a builder potion. And the speed was already really good. I dont know what are you talking about.

I don't like playing the stutter game when building, I would rather coast all the way than stutter. You cannot coast in a straight line on asphalt while building under you, your player will move faster than the build speed, even with any movement speed buffs that put you above 16 mph your player will move faster than your build speed. 80% build speed is good, but it does not do enough. Especially when 50% of that speed comes from Brick Layer alone which can be a pain to get sometimes.

 

[Golden Heretic Snakeboat]

As others have said, increasing wing speed would be a good buff to the quick reforge. However, i'd like to add another factor to the mix: max run speed. If you don't know, "max run speed" is what the hermes boots and it's variants/tinkers use to determine how fast the player moves at full sprint, and is why boosting movement speed while wearing these accessories doesn't do much unless you push the boost beyond 100%.

Currently, there's only 2 ways to increase run speed besides the hermes boots line of accessories: magiluminesence and the 1.4.4 shadow armor. Having quick also modify max run speed would be a simple, but potentially very powerful buff to the reforge.

And actually makes it more useful in pre-hardmode, instead of just in hardmode like boosting wing speed would do

 

[Coleyohley]

Total support; the maximum building speed in this game is  pathetic and Quick really struggles to do anything thanks to AccessoryRunSpeed (Movement Speed doesn't start working until it is higher than that value, and even something simple like Hermes' Boots have 100% AccRunSpeed). Quick is also absurdly overshadowed by Swiftness Potion (25%), Happy (20%), and Food Buffs (20%/30%/40%). If you have every single one of those, you can breach the AccRunSpeed of Hermes' Boots, and only after that will the Quick Modifier start working, granting you a whopping... 0.6mph. For any accessory that lets you run faster than Hermes' Boots, you will a  lot more Movement Speed to breach it.

As for building, the upcoming Roller Skates solve the tapping problem but they don't make the building speed any less agonizingly slow, and making anything remotely large in Terraria sounds like it will still be very tedious even with the new item. More building speed please!

 

[Meowlegend]

that change would make you use quick then all power to you, but for me personally I don't see it impacting my playstyle at all.

Understandable.

As others have said, increasing wing speed would be a good buff to the quick reforge. However, i'd like to add another factor to the mix: max run speed. If you don't know, "max run speed" is what the hermes boots and it's variants/tinkers use to determine how fast the player moves at full sprint, and is why boosting movement speed while wearing these accessories doesn't do much unless you push the boost beyond 100%.

This is good too.

Total support; the maximum building speed in this game is  pathetic and Quick really struggles to do anything thanks to AccessoryRunSpeed (Movement Speed doesn't start working until it is higher than that value, and even something simple like Hermes' Boots have 100% AccRunSpeed). Quick is also absurdly overshadowed by Swiftness Potion (25%), Happy (20%), and Food Buffs (20%/30%/40%). If you have every single one of those, you can breach the AccRunSpeed of Hermes' Boots, and then the quick modifier will give you... 0.6mph.

This is why I suggested Quick increaseing wing accelaretion speed, I would use it that way. Though, that increase should be noticeable.