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I pretty much like the upcoming update. Nicely done mods and admins!
I completely agree with this, except that if someone gets banned from the suggestion forums it is replacing the warning points, I think that if someone is going so far that they are being banned from an entire subsection of this forum they should also be getting at least some warning points, though that is just my opinion.One thing I'm going to add into the overall rule supplement, and I'd like some feedback on it from you guys is this:
- As the behavioral expectations being put into effect are somewhat stricter than on the rest of the forums (due to the somewhat more pervasive atmosphere of rudeness in the section), infraction points are going to be used less often (though still used) as a response to rule-breaking posts, and more often replaced with thread bans for unconstructive hostile posting.
- Persistent unconstructive posting in the Suggestion forum may lead to temporary bans from posting in the entire Suggestion section. Further posting of this nature may lead to permanent banning from the section, rather than significant warning point infractions on the individual in question.
This is a useful tool at our disposal, because one of the trends we've seen are posters who, in all other areas of the forum, act relatively respectfully, but lose that professionalism when responding to suggestions. These are people who are assets to the community, and rather than give repeated warning points in excess to the point of reaching temp-ban levels or worse, we think that removal from the section may be a better solution.
Thoughts guys?
Overreacting much?RIP in pieces TCF 2014-2015
You were good son, real good , maybe even the best.
I completely agree with this, except that if someone gets banned from the suggestion forums it is replacing the warning points, I think that if someone is going so far that they are being banned from an entire subsection of this forum they should also be getting at least some warning points, though that is just my opinion.
Sounds good to me.<snip> Thoughts guys?
And a powerful oneHow exactly does asking for a certain level of decorum - one expected and demonstrated across the rest of the forum - in suggestions "kill" TCF?
How does staff openly asking about and seeking community feedback on the use of alternate tools rather than the blunt instrument of "points and bans" kill the forum?
Serious question.
Being unconditionally positive is just as unhelpful as being unconditionally negative in my opinion, this is why I personally consider post consisting of simply "I support" or "I approve of this suggestion" to be Lack of Content as well (not offendable, of course, you can't expect everyone to know about game design). Then again, it's not emotionally harmful. Which is sort of the crux here.I'm playing devil's advocate here, but how is a "Oh my gosh this is a great idea" any more helpful to a thread than "Oh my gosh no this is an awful idea"? Neither contribute anything to the idea; the only difference is that one boosts the OP's ego and the other flattens it.
Terraria Community Forums.Side note - what is TCF?
I completely disagree.Being unconditionally positive is just as unhelpful as being unconditionally negative in my opinion, this is why I personally consider post consisting of simply "I support" or "I approve of this suggestion" to be Lack of Content as well
The only one of these new guidelines I don't agree with is that, for some reason, brevity is seen as a negative when it comes to not liking a suggestion.
Especially when one of the later guidelines discourages getting into prolonged arguments.
Why isn't it okay to simply express that I don't like a suggestion? That not wanting a suggestion to get added to the game is somehow taking a jab at the creator. And that maybe I don't have any constructive feedback because I don't like any aspect of the suggestion and don't see how it can be salvaged?
If you explode, the people who matter won't even consider your argument. So people who blast hot slag all over the OP anyway should receive the same punishment as they would on any other part of the forum.
I'm playing devil's advocate here, but how is a "Oh my gosh this is a great idea" any more helpful to a thread than "Oh my gosh no this is an awful idea"? Neither contribute anything to the idea; the only difference is that one boosts the OP's ego and the other flattens it.
Side note - what is TCF?
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I completely disagree.
I think posting things you yourself want to see in the game, or workshopping other people's ideas is only part of the reason that the suggestion forums exist. And I think that line of thinking completely negates the other, possibly more important purpose of those forums.
Which is, to support ideas you want to see added, and to express your dislike for ideas you don't want to see added. And that developers, upon reading the forums, can see this support/dislike, and consider the ideas accordingly based on the level of player support.
If you take away a poster's ability to express that without writing a complicated dissertation on the matter explaining what is, ultimately, just the way they feel, you're drastically hampering their ability to convey what they do or don't want to see added to the game.