Terraria: State of the Game (11/8/18)

Discussion in 'Console - 505 Games/Pipeworks Studio' started by Safeman, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. Yello_Xplorer

    Yello_Xplorer Plantera

    You mean the Switch thing? I think it's the minimap
     
  2. MavHawk2

    MavHawk2 Terrarian

    Not sure if anyone else has ever asked or if this is some kind of taboo, but will we ever see mod support on the platforms or will that stay a computer only technically bad thing? I'm not really sure where the development team stands on whether mods are good or bad, but I know a lot of PC players enjoy using mods like Calamity and Thorium and I was just wondering if the consoles will ever get a chance to have things like that, even if it isn't in the near future. EDIT: Just searched and read rules about it, and I now know that us as community members can't do it, but I'm wondering if it would be different if people developing the game are for it. Just asking because I was wondering, and now reading those rules, I also am wondering if the developmental viewpoint on mods has changed.
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2018
  3. Tunnel King

    Tunnel King Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    That's up to the console manufacturers themselves (Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo). Their EULAs forbid any modification of the hardware/software of their systems, including third-party games like Terraria. Until/unless they change that policy, what the Terraria devs view on it is largely irrelevant.
     
  4. Proto Persona

    Proto Persona Brain of Cthulhu

    The console manufacturers stance on modding is slowly changing. There are still technical hurdles such as ReLogic would have to host the mods themselves and verify the mods can't do anything to hurt your console. Since there's not even official support for mods on the PC I don't see all this getting worked out anytime soon.
     
  5. darthmorf

    darthmorf Party Girl

    I assume it's because Bethesda are a much larger company and so have more sway, but Skyrim Special Edition has mods on console, wouldn't the same rules apply to Terraria?
     
  6. Tunnel King

    Tunnel King Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    I'm not saying it can't happen, or won't happen someday. Just that Re-Logic has very little influence on making it happen, and it's unlikely to happen soon.

    Skyrim is a single, isolated example, and Bethesda is a massive company with multiple AAA games. (They pretty much nope'd out of supporting Skyrim mods for the Switch, fwiw.) How many other AAA games have legal mods on consoles? Minecraft?, Fallout 4 (Bethesda again) that I can find. If it was that easy and console manufacturers really wanted to support it, why aren't there more? Can just anyone make a mod for Skyrim on console and make it available, like they can on PC? I don't think console manufacturers will allow anything on their systems without signing a lot of legal documents that are surely not to the benefit of the mod creators.

    Same reasoning applies to cross-platform play. "Minecraft has crossplay, why not Terraria?" Because Microsoft owns the game, the XBox console, and the PC OS that the vast majority of PC gamers use. They made their own special rules for their own title, and they have virtually unlimited resources to make it happen. Re-Logic has maybe 10 employees who work mostly out of their basements.

    I personally agree that it would be great for every Terrarian to be able to experience mods and to play with all of their friends, regardless of their chosen platform. But realistically, there are a lot of barriers to that happening that are beyond Re-Logic's control, and those barriers will likely be there for some time to come.

    Re-Logic owns this forum, and the rules regarding console modding/discussion are necessary to comply with the policies set forth by the console manufacturers, whose partnership and cooperation are required to have a console version at all. They are not an arbitrary viewpoint or opinion on modding by anyone at Re-Logic, as far as I know.
     
  7. Xiarno

    Xiarno Terrarian

    It's definitely can. There should be NO reason for it to lag. You are clearly underestimating the power of the Nintendo Switch.
     
  8. sharkman0101

    sharkman0101 The Destroyer

    The Nintendo Switch is still weaker than the Xbox One and Playstation 4 in terms of power. How it would hold up to future updates is something we can't quite determine as of now, only when Terraria on PC advances we will tell if the Switch can continue to sustain the updates.
     
  9. InstaFiz

    InstaFiz Slime Collector

    Yeah, you guys should see how the Switch runs Fortnite. It's not bad, but I feel like the console will blow at any minute I'm playing. The air vent will never shut up.
     
  10. Proto Persona

    Proto Persona Brain of Cthulhu

    Considering Terraria already lags and has instability on the PS4, I'm a bit worried about the switch really.
     
  11. coffeemancer

    coffeemancer Terrarian

    The game came out on PC and is intended for PC. It's for us.
     
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  12. Flavio360

    Flavio360 Terrarian

    As you all know 1.3.6 is heavily in development for PC. We have added many new features and mechanics, hired several part time programmers from the mod community, and significantly added to the soundtrack of the game!We are very excited to announce the most recent edition to Terraria; Blood Moon Fishing! During Blood Moons you will now be able to fish up disgusting new monsters for a chance at new loot related to the Blood Moon!

    Thats awesome, it really is... but i have an issue that i feel should be addresse (sorry if this is the wrong place for this i just couldn't figue out have to make a thread). So in my house a npc loves to stand in frount of my bed, making me unset my spawn point,l. I think that if you could make npcs not want to go near beds that would be great. thanks
     
  13. ShadowOfDarkness

    ShadowOfDarkness Terrarian

    First off, I feel you should make some way of quoting the first half, since that was in the OP. Just saying, there's a quote button and even then, there's quote marks. " "

    Secondly, assuming you are talking about PC or New-Console, there is a Housing Menu for you to choose who lives where, but it must be a suitable home. Refer to [link=https://terraria.gamepedia.com/House]this[/link] for what house requires, or the in-game Housing Query, marked by a ? In the Housing Menu.

    A house consists of a Light Source, Flat Surface, and a Comfort Item, and a Bed counts as a Comfort Item. You can make a Player House unsuitable for an NPC by not using a Flat Surface Item, or Lighting Items (for light, I would then reccomend placing torches just outside the actual house part, say, on another floor, that the room does not count within it.
     
  14. ThatOneMobileTerrariaUser

    ThatOneMobileTerrariaUser Eye of Cthulhu

    CAN'T WAIT! Imagine if you finish mobile and Switch early and release it on Christmas Day! Now THAT is a present I would ove to wake up to. But of course, ANY date is as good as any when my fave game is updating on my device
     
  15. Xiarno

    Xiarno Terrarian

    That may also only be optimization problem.
    Seriously, before I got this new computer, I played on a old, VERY, old computer that is, as you guess it, wayyyyy worse than what the Switch have... And I was still playing Terraria 1.3 without any single problem...
    The only problem I've started seing : At the end of the game, where there is many many thing in the world (Compared to the start), then it's start lagging. But not too much to say it is unplayable. Yes, annoying, but playable and being playable is the most important here. No matter how hard it's lag, if it is not playable, then there's no point at all.
     
  16. ShadowOfDarkness

    ShadowOfDarkness Terrarian

    Yeah, I played all through 1.3.0.1 with terrible lag, on a fairly old laptop, It's possible.
     
  17. Proto Persona

    Proto Persona Brain of Cthulhu

    Well playable is a subjective definition. When I'm playing split screen with my son and the entire game freezes for a second randomly, I consider that unplayable. I could just move on and not be bothered by it, but I don't want to. It never happens on the PC version.
     
  18. Xiarno

    Xiarno Terrarian

    Never ?
    Right now, I have a very powerful computer that handle the job... But it not without saying that SOMETIME there is this type of freeze. It's bound to happen that sometime I have. And if the game freeze randomly like that for a second, then it is in fact playable. Because you can play, but sometime you will have these lag.

    And in fact, for what you just said, you aren't the type of guy that should be part of this conv, saying that only with that is enough to really bother you. The person that only goes on with the FPS and no possible lag shouldn't talk in this conv, because then, it's always gonna be a one-way conv with only you being the right, since there is, at our time, no possible way that console get to PC level. I'm the type of guy that don't care about lag. I just want to play and have fun, because that the most important.
     
  19. Proto Persona

    Proto Persona Brain of Cthulhu

    That's a rather exclusionist viewpoint. I'm not happy with the game currently so I should just be quiet?

    There are many people that are very happy with Terraria on console right now. To say that it can not be improved or that it will never get to the same level as the PC is nonsense though. My PC is about 10-ish years old and less powerful than the PS4 pro and 720p TV I'm playing on with my son. If they can optimize the game for my potato computer with a crew of about 5 people, then I expect a crew of 30ish people to get at least to that level of competence. Especially when they only have about 5 discrete home console specs to worry about targeting compared to the almost infinite configurations of a home PC.

    If the PC version can play without the game completely locking up periodically then so can the consoles. I'm sorry to hear that it doesn't run all that smoothly on your PC, but your experience is not normal. To say that we should be happy with what we have and not expect better is just silly though.
     
  20. Xiarno

    Xiarno Terrarian

    Coding on PC is very, very different than coding on console. Not only that, but the optimization to. So it's not because there's more people that it's should work more perfectly, no. In fact, is it even the exact opposite. In coding, you always want to have coordination so all thing work properly. The more people you have, the more chance it's will less be good. Their competence and their teamwork also matter. What they use also matter. But here, I'm only talking about the team, not the game / software / hardware itself which also have a big impact. There is so many parameter to take in that it is impossible to predict what is normal or not.

    Also, yes me experience is normal. There will always, ALWAYS be at some point a little lag like this. It is impossible to not have it. It is bound to happen.

    I'm gonna stop now, because we are derivating too much out of subject and it is becoming what should not be there, and as I know, it is not allowed.
    Have a nice day everybody !