StevieTheEevee
Terrarian
Look at the monkey! Look at the monkey!
Terraria State of the Game: February 2020
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DoctorLove
Terrarian
I have registered just to tell you guys about my guess about the thing that "will change the way a lot of players approach some core aspects of the game".
I've made a suggestion here on forums many years ago and it was basically about having doors that lead to other areas of the world. Not side doors that you build inside of walls, but more like background objects doors, where you see their front side. My guess that some of those doors will be also locked and you'll have to find special keys for them first which just like other treasures maybe somewhat similar to other keys that are already in the game. I'm thinking special areas or just treasure rooms, or small events rooms with enemies or traps hallways, things like that.
And just my imagination tells me that those areas behind the doors could also lead to not only closed areas, but probably also other open areas as some kind of world's layers. Take some mushroom biome you find underground and it has a small background cave entrance where you might proceed and find yourself in the same biome, except having different area around you.
To be honest that's the only thing I could think of that would advance the known gameplay experience while not really hurting other core areas of the game.
What do you guys think?
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I've created a thread to discuss it:
forums.terraria.org
I've made a suggestion here on forums many years ago and it was basically about having doors that lead to other areas of the world. Not side doors that you build inside of walls, but more like background objects doors, where you see their front side. My guess that some of those doors will be also locked and you'll have to find special keys for them first which just like other treasures maybe somewhat similar to other keys that are already in the game. I'm thinking special areas or just treasure rooms, or small events rooms with enemies or traps hallways, things like that.
And just my imagination tells me that those areas behind the doors could also lead to not only closed areas, but probably also other open areas as some kind of world's layers. Take some mushroom biome you find underground and it has a small background cave entrance where you might proceed and find yourself in the same biome, except having different area around you.
To be honest that's the only thing I could think of that would advance the known gameplay experience while not really hurting other core areas of the game.
What do you guys think?
Edit:
I've created a thread to discuss it:
PC - Speculations about the upcoming 'game changer' feature
I have registered just to tell you guys about my guess about the thing that "will change the way a lot of players approach some core aspects of the game" (as mentioned by Loki in the latest 'State of the Game' in the end of the post). I've made a suggestion here on forums many years ago and it...
IndigoRage
Terrarian
If something changes the game so fundamentally that my creature comforts and usual playstyle are no longer even viable rather than just optional, it'll be more annoying than anything. If it's IN ADDITION to the current viable playstyles, I don't really see any harm in it.
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DoctorLove
Terrarian
Yeah, I would only consider them adding something to extend the existing experience or some major change that's basically quality of life in its core.
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Golem
Yeaaah I mean it feels way too out of left field to be quite honest, belongs more in a mod than in vanilla Terraria, also feels like a direct rip off those big ol' gates you find underground in Starbound like @Crysis pointed out.
Honestly the promise of changing "some core aspects of the game" feels empty and I'm thinking why not just put them in another game...oh wait.
Honestly the promise of changing "some core aspects of the game" feels empty and I'm thinking why not just put them in another game...oh wait.
Oh- BURN!
... In all honesty, I don't get a vindictive feeling of satisfaction from berating or belittling the devs. Despite my harsh criticisms, I actually have a lot of respect for all these folks. My issue has always come down to how they communicate, and how they plan. With Journey's End, they STILL didn't learn their lesson; making grand promises and then falling through on them. They did it with Otherworld, and then with Journey's End. Now I'm just waiting for the day where they do it again and say "Welp, looks like J.E's done for. I'm sure we'll learn a lot from this in the future... again. For, like, real this time!"
Maybe instead of making promises they won't commit to, why don't they just STFU and stick to keeping an active presence in the community? None of this Promise-then-Silence garbo they seem so keen on sticking to.
Dunno what to tell you, guy. We're literally working on J.E. every day. There's no reason we can foresee why we would cancel it, the content already in is great.
As for active, I'm not sure what else you want us to do! We do regular status updates, albeit brief. No, we don't want to spoil more info. You guys will just have to wait; if the solution is spoil more, then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't our game plan. We are keeping lines of communication open, but we're throttling the spoilers to save some actual excitement for release.
Stardust Guardian
Official Terrarian
Leinfors you are a F-ing god.Dunno what to tell you, guy. We're literally working on J.E. every day. There's no reason we can foresee why we would cancel it, the content already in is great.
As for active, I'm not sure what else you want us to do! We do regular status updates, albeit brief. No, we don't want to spoil more info. You guys will just have to wait; if the solution is spoil more, then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't our game plan. We are keeping lines of communication open, but we're throttling the spoilers to save some actual excitement for release.
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Golem
Hmmm I'd like to rephrase what I said here in a more positive and honest manner:Honestly the promise of changing "some core aspects of the game" feels empty and I'm thinking why not just put them in another game...oh wait.
Terraria is my favorite game of all time and my Steam profile is literally littered with all sorts of Terraria-related stuff. The dev team is rather small and it is truly impressive and certainly commendable how they are able to take criticisms, respond to them honestly, and continue to act in the community on a nearly daily basis, heck they even started the weekly streams (which I love)!
That being said, I'm honestly just excitably scared that they are planning on changing "core aspects" of the game because I already love all the mechanics as is (perhaps we are too worried about the use of diction?).
I'm being a hypocrite by feeding into the monthly whining about the States of the Game whilst also thinking "Jeez can these people just let up and be thankful?" And for that I apologize.
Still luv ya Terraria and Team
And I'm sure even the people complaining do as well, perhaps it is just a fearful concern for the future seeing as (from our point of view) some things are not going as planned.
Nsk1341
Terrarian
LOL...far from it man...far from it. He's just a person. If there was a "god" on the dev team we wouldn't be waiting 8+ months for split screen on switch.
Dunno what to tell you, guy. We're literally working on J.E. every day. There's no reason we can foresee why we would cancel it, the content already in is great.
As for active, I'm not sure what else you want us to do! We do regular status updates, albeit brief. No, we don't want to spoil more info. You guys will just have to wait; if the solution is spoil more, then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't our game plan. We are keeping lines of communication open, but we're throttling the spoilers to save some actual excitement for release.
Okay, gotta be fair here, you're right- I should've thought more closely on what I said about their/your presence in the community, y'all're actually doing that now; and that should be acknowledged. I guess I'm still just hung up on what was going on during Otherworld Dev, which let's face it, there were months with radio silence. I can't continue to beat a dead horse over Otherworld, so I'll just move on. It's just very easy to reference when a lot of what was done wrong during the Dev can be seen in the last few months regarding J.E.
Also, calm your tatas, I don't care for spoilers. I'm the kind of person who will run screaming from a room to avoid watching a commercial for an upcoming movie I'm interested in. So, not my Coffee, not my Creamer.
Also, not a criticism but a possibly helpful hint, I'd stick to using more gender-neutral honorifics+. Such as 'Dude' (let's face it, no one says 'Dudette'), or some other interesting version. Like "What up, my Coffee Mug!", or "Dunno what to tell you, Java." I only say 'cause I've been using GN's at work to great success; also not a 'guy'. You meet a 6' tall man built like a freight train named Sarah after calling them 'Ms.' in every correspondence, and you'll suddenly wish the English language wasn't so hard over gender specifics. XD
Last bit: Calm down there, Young Link. Your fandom is showing, and it's a little creepy. o.=.o
Dapling
Duke Fishron
To be fair, leinfors isn't part of the team who works on switch
Stardust Guardian
Official Terrarian
Yeah, it's 505 games(?) job, NOT Relogic.To be fair, leinfors isn't part of the team who works on switch
Nsk1341
Terrarian
To be fair, still not a god. If a "God" then it wouldn't matter what team they're on...it would be done.To be fair, leinfors isn't part of the team who works on switch
I'm still mad at 505 because I believe they're partially responsible for eShop and other retailers advertising a feature that was NOT actually in the game.
505, PW, relogic. All of them have failed. There are no "gods" among them.
Stardust Guardian
Official Terrarian
Leinfors is a god what r u talkin about bro
Dapling
Duke Fishron
I can understand your viewpoint. I was less calling him a god and more defending the fact that he (and most others at re-logic, except probably red and cenx) don't really have any influence whatsoever on the ports, as they are different dev teams.
I don't understand you blaming literally every dev team for the fact that you don't have local multiplayer when literally only pipeworks is responsible
You know what I'm surprised we haven't seen in Terraria?
Salt.
It's a mineral like any other, but I bet there could be great use for that as an item. OH!! Also, wouldn't it be neat if the "core changes" they were doing were to involve other challenges to the game, such as hunger, heat and cold, and more? Then we could mine the forums to get all the Salt we need, 'cause this be a quarry of salt, yo!
Salt.
It's a mineral like any other, but I bet there could be great use for that as an item. OH!! Also, wouldn't it be neat if the "core changes" they were doing were to involve other challenges to the game, such as hunger, heat and cold, and more? Then we could mine the forums to get all the Salt we need, 'cause this be a quarry of salt, yo!
Mille Marteaux
Empress of Light
See, that's good, open-ended development. I respect that, I enjoy that. That's how I handle things. I understand it.
The problem is that, collectively, as a team, you are a little too secretive about some things when they really, really should not be kept secret. It's okay when it comes to a case of "we literally do not have the answers" and you tell us that. But this little bit back in the opening post is something I still wonder about daily.
I do not wonder about this for good reasons.
Like, yes - I understand. You want it to sound mysterious and exciting. And it does! It's very mysterious!
But for many people, myself included, the excitement a statement like this provides is not a good kind of excitement. It is anxiety. We do not know what to expect, and if you're going to change up core aspects of your game nine years into its lifespan, without providing a way for players to continue to play older versions of your game if you want, then...
Wouldn't it be best to ask the community for feedback on your planned core changes? What if it's a change that, by and large, the players feel was for the worse?
Once again, I do not have my doubts that the development team will do a good job. I don't expect it to be something meme-y like enemy mobs being able to destroy structures like in the much older days.
But I, much like many players here, including scores of people much better at the game than I am, want to know what it is.
We want to be able to give feedback on it. We want to share our concerns. We want to be able to help. We want to see Terraria be the best game it can possibly be.
But you all, collectively, want to remain secretive and conservative about sharing information after what happened with Otherworld, in case something falls through, which is a fair stance to take.
I, personally, am fine with the amount we've heard about 1.4 thus far. I'm waiting patiently!
Just... Please, please meet us halfway here. Let us know something about these "core" aspect changes. Don't treat something so potentially major as the same kind of "ooh, aaaahhh" mystery that a new boss or shiny new weapon's drop location would be.
And if it's not as potentially major as I think it is from the sounds of it... Please don't word things to make them sound like a bigger deal than they are.
Regardless of anything that happens, though... Those of us here truly do appreciate these updates, as little or "insubstantial" as some people may like to say they are from time to time. I'm sure you know this, but the loudest of us in these threads don't post out of hatred or malice - it's out of passion for this wacky little game.
... Meh. This is getting kind of stream of consciousness-y at this point. If you read this all the way through... Thanks.
Stardust Guardian
Official Terrarian
Still upset that the Stardust Pillar + items ISN'T a reference to jojo.
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