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repeater13 said:
Unpopular opinion, but I think that there shouldn't be a "View Warning" button on warned posts. I think that just PMing people would be better as some people don't really like to be "open" about their warnings.
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When someone receives a warning they receive a PM that goes into greater detail about the warning, what caused it, and any other relevant information.

The meager amount of information that can be garnered from the "View Warning" button is there to serve as a means of providing a modicum of transparency in regards to staff action. It is not there to shame anyone or to make people feel embarrassed, merely as a way to show information on punishments for those that might wonder why a specific post lead to staff action.
 
Matsu said:
When someone receives a warning they receive a PM that goes into greater detail about the warning, what caused it, and any other relevant information.

The meager amount of information that can be garnered from the "View Warning" button is there to serve as a means of providing a modicum of transparency in regards to staff action. It is not there to shame anyone or to make people feel embarrassed, merely as a way to show information on punishments for those that might wonder why a specific post lead to staff action.
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But still I think that most of the warnings that the staff give out (like "Inappropriate Content" or "Rude Behaviour To Other Members") can explain themselves. We don't need a tag to explain something that is pretty obvious to most people (or people with common sense at least). Maybe use a tag to explain a few more uncommon causes of warnings but really common things are self explanatory. But since you are a staff member and all, I won't question your decision.
 
I like to be extremely open about my warnings. You can ask me about each one. If I don't remember, I will just make something up. Or lie. There is a difference. But at the end of the day you will have an answer.

I suggest we settle this by making it an option.
 
You are able to remove the warning flag from a post yourself by, get this, deleting said post. If you got a warning on it, the post likely isn't contributing anything useful, so you might as well just get rid of it. Granted, this isn't always the most viable option, but it's still available if you need it.
 
We only have two settings available to us regarding the viewing of warnings:
  1. Everyone can see them,
  2. Only the staff can see them, meaning people can't see their own warnings.
I think we can agree that the second is quite the opposite of transparent - people should be aware of their own standing regarding warnings.
 
The original asker didn't have any warning points so I have no idea why they are asking it unless they plan on doing something sticky. But. The admin in me thinks that the warnings should be visible to everyone. While the rest of me thinks the warnings tab should be the first tab on the profile.

If you don't want warnings on your profile don't break the rules. Simple as that. :guidewink:

Ai said:
You are able to remove the warning flag from a post yourself by, get this, deleting said post. If you got a warning on it, the post likely isn't contributing anything useful, so you might as well just get rid of it. Granted, this isn't always the most viable option, but it's still available if you need it.
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That doesn't get rid of the warning itself and can, in fact, make it impossible to remove from your profile. I'm not sure if they are still doing this but you can appeal your warnings after so long.
 
Hie the Badger said:
The original asker didn't have any warning points so I have no idea why they are asking it unless they plan on doing something sticky. But. The admin in me thinks that the warnings should be visible to everyone. While the rest of me thinks the warnings tab should be the first tab on the profile.

If you don't want warnings on your profile don't break the rules. Simple as that. :guidewink:



That doesn't get rid of the warning itself and can, in fact, make it impossible to remove from your profile. I'm not sure if they are still doing this but you can appeal your warnings after so long.
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Moderators can still see deleted posts so I don't think it would affect the removal process.
 
Hie the Badger said:
I'm not sure if they are still doing this but you can appeal your warnings after so long.
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In regards to this for everyone, we have a process where members can apply to remove their expired warnings after a significant period of time has passed after the warning has expired and the same behavior has not been repeated. https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/warning-appeal-and-removal-process.34458/

To summarize the policy from this Thread. Minor Warnings (Off Topic/Spam/Advertising) can be removed 2 months after the expiration date of that warning through making the application here. Major Warnings (Personal Attacks/Harassment/Severe Inappropriate content) can be removed 4 months after expiration with a review from the Forum Staff, or 8 Months without Review.

Otherwise if a member decides to not undergo this process, their previous warnings will remain on their profile. As said from Tunnel King earlier as well, we only have 2 options for displaying warnings and we have to allow everyone to see them since a member needs to be aware of the status of their own warnings.

And if the post with a warning is deleted, it is as Hie says. The warning will still remain on the member's profile. This happens because when we (Moderators) delete posts, or when a member deletes their own post, they are actually "soft-deleted" and only Staff members can see the deleted posts at that point, but we cannot "hard-delete" them which would mean deleting it completely.
 
Hie the Badger said:
That doesn't get rid of the warning itself and can, in fact, make it impossible to remove from your profile. I'm not sure if they are still doing this but you can appeal your warnings after so long.
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It is possible to delete a warning from a deleted post. The original "infraction" mod for Xenforo was as you described, but ever since the current warning system was added to vanilla Xenforo, that issue has been resolved.
 
Ai said:
It is possible to delete a warning from a deleted post. The original "infraction" mod for Xenforo was as you described, but ever since the current warning system was added to vanilla Xenforo, that issue has been resolved.
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"And if the post with a warning is deleted, it is as Hie says. The warning will still remain on the member's profile. This happens because when we (Moderators) delete posts, or when a member deletes their own post, they are actually "soft-deleted" and only Staff members can see the deleted posts at that point, but we cannot "hard-delete" them which would mean deleting it completely."
 
repeater13 said:
"And if the post with a warning is deleted, it is as Hie says. The warning will still remain on the member's profile. This happens because when we (Moderators) delete posts, or when a member deletes their own post, they are actually "soft-deleted" and only Staff members can see the deleted posts at that point, but we cannot "hard-delete" them which would mean deleting it completely."
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I meant that it's possible for a moderator to delete a warning from a deleted post, not that a user can delete their own warnings.
 
This seems to be a rather silly 'argument'.

Moderators on TerrariaOnline had fewer permissions than here. Kane didn't want us to see anything that was soft-deleted, so any post with an infraction (old system) or warning (newer system) that was deleted - by us or by the member - was gone from the staff's view as if it had been hard-deleted. That was the reason we couldn't/wouldn't remove warnings from deleted content - we couldn't see the posts either. It had nothing to do with any differences between 'infractions' (before my time on staff) and warnings.

Seeing soft-deleted posts on TO was more of a 'curse' (pun intended) than something useful anyway, due to the daily bombardment of bot spam that had to be cleaned (and we were never allowed to hard-delete anything there). During a brief time near the end when we could see soft-deleted posts, the sheer amount of deleted spam would overwhelm any useful posts.
 
Tunnel King said:
This seems to be a rather silly 'argument'.

Moderators on TerrariaOnline had fewer permissions than here. Kane didn't want us to see anything that was soft-deleted, so any post with an infraction (old system) or warning (newer system) that was deleted - by us or by the member - was gone from the staff's view as if it had been hard-deleted. That was the reason we couldn't/wouldn't remove warnings from deleted content - we couldn't see the posts either. It had nothing to do with any differences between 'infractions' (before my time on staff) and warnings.

Seeing soft-deleted posts on TO was more of a 'curse' (pun intended) than something useful anyway, due to the daily bombardment of bot spam that had to be cleaned (and we were never allowed to hard-delete anything there). During a brief time near the end when we could see soft-deleted posts, the sheer amount of deleted spam would overwhelm any useful posts.
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Hail to the King :guidewink:
 
repeater13 said:
Unpopular opinion, but I think that there shouldn't be a "View Warning" button on warned posts. I think that just PMing people would be better as some people don't really like to be "open" about their warnings.
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A public warning, though, has the added purpose of maybe educating other members of the forum who also don't know better. I'd say the simple educational value of public warnings trumps the embarrassment that comes with them.

I can see where the embarrassment for getting a warning comes from, but I'm going to honestly say that warnings aren't anything to be worried about. For sure try to avoid getting one, but if you manage to be given one, it's really not that bad. At all.

Edit: Oh. There was a page after that post. Huh.
 
Does BBCode work in reports? Say, if I use [url] tags to link to a thread, does that show up nicely formatted on your end?
 
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