Do swear words against the suggestion's OP count for the denial rating? Like if someone says the A, B and F word to your suggestion without useful feedback.
Do swear words against the suggestion's OP count for the denial rating? Like if someone says the A, B and F word to your suggestion without useful feedback.
Hola Estaría genial poder capturar a las criaturas del mundo de Terraria como tipo Pokémon y usarlos a nuestro favor en nuestras aventuras o contra otros jugadores oh npc teniendo batallas estilo Pokémon también usar sus habilidades a nuestro favor a la hora de una pelea junto a nosotros que sufran daño y puedan caer al ser atacados y si fueron asesinados poder revivir a nuestros compañeros matando a las mismas criaturas cosechando fragmentos de alma de la misma especie y para hacer una poción y devolverlo a la vida.
Un mineral nuevo con el que podamos fundir con los minerales actuales en Terraria con el que podamos hacer diferentes tipos de cubos de captura con la que se podrían capturar las diferentes criaturas con sus respectivos cubos de captura.
También sería increíble criaturas prime que sobre salgan de las demás
You should try to reply when possible. Especially on straightforward suggestion threads that most people would agree with, liking the main post without replying is a common thing to see. But keep in mind that replying to a thread gives the thread attention, which is the best gift you can bestow upon a suggestion, especially if it's clearly the thread creator's labor of love.
Question: what are we supposed to reply? Saying “I like this” with no other information seems quite redundant, but sometimes there just isn’t that much to say.
Question: what are we supposed to reply? Saying “I like this” with no other information seems quite redundant, but sometimes there just isn’t that much to say.
Question: what are we supposed to reply? Saying “I like this” with no other information seems quite redundant, but sometimes there just isn’t that much to say.
It's true! Don't feel bad about just leaving a like on the thread if it's a straightforward idea. That bit of info is meant to emphasize that a like combined with a relevant reply is more helpful than just a like.
I'm confused on how you said a endgame biome has to exist at the beginning of the playthrough, but the meteor and hollow exist. The meteorite isn't that endgame, but does appear after a milestone has been hit and provides the player with an upgrade, one that can get them to hard mode as a mage I think. The hollow appears once you enter hard mode and tbh I can't think of many upgrades it itself gives besides wings and a mount, but it gives access to 2 bosses that can give very good loot to progress. Besides that what I've read so far is great! Should've read this before I posted my suggestion lmao
I'm confused on how you said a endgame biome has to exist at the beginning of the playthrough, the meteor and hollow exist. The meteorite isn't that endgame, but does appear after a milestone has been hit and provides the player with an upgrade, one that can get them through hard mode as a mage I think. The hollow appears once you enter hard mode and tbh I can't think of many upgrades it itself gives besides wings and a mount, but it gives access to 2 bosses that can give very good loot to progress. Besides that what I've read so far is great! Should've read this before I posted my suggestion lmao
Meteorite is more of an event that is classified as a biome, and the Hallow is a big thing that would a) be a bit much to replicate, and b) ruin its uniqueness.
The Player Suggestions section of TCF is well known and well regarded as a hotspot for in-depth game discussion. Everyone who has played any game for an appreciable amount of time will have thought of at least one way that game could be improved, and this is especially true for Terraria, which is one of the most content-dense games in the indie scene. This forum has a special place in my heart because it was my main inspiration to pursue game design professionally, and who knows? It might become yours, too.
But while both newcomers and veterans are more than welcome to post here, as a new forum user it's not always easy to get suggestion-related advice from forum veterans. This is because many of our forum old-timers have posted essentially the exact same replies to many different threads over the years, meaning that they may not have the patience to reply to yours. And though that is no fault of your own, it will make it difficult for you to improve.
Which brings us to the purpose of this thread. I'll be addressing common mistakes, giving advice for making your ideas more compelling, and probably most importantly, laying out a foundation for the attitude you'll want to have towards making and improving suggestions. This is not a walkthrough, and it's not something I expect you to follow to the letter or treat like any sort of rulebook. Think of it instead as an introduction to what you should expect from the Player Suggestions community, and a loose guide to what tends to work well.
tl;dr for those who just want to avoid common mistakes:
GAME DESIGN
-Overpowered stuff is not balanced.
-Underpowered stuff is not balanced, either.
-Don't make anything excessively rare.
-Use existing features and mechanics as guidelines.
-Try to focus on parts of the game that need improvement.
-Uniqueness is good, but try to stay within scope.
-Don't punish the player if they didn't do anything wrong. Only punish them a little bit if they did something a little bit wrong.
-Reward creativity.
-When possible, create meaningful choices by presenting multiple viable options to the player.
-Respect the player's time. Don't make them wait unnecessarily or repeat old content that no longer interests them.
-If there are multiple ways to implement a game mechanic, the simplest one is the best. For example, a new crafting station is simpler than a new NPC.
-Don't expect the developers to remove anything unless it's universally disliked. Suggest reworks instead.
THREAD CREATION AND MAINTENANCE
-Show your effort and make it readable. People don't like low-effort threads suggesting high-effort content.
-Don't post suggestions for major new biomes if you can't make artwork. Imagination alone can only take you so far.
-Don't post it with a vague title like "an idea I had" or "cool stuff".
-Don’t stick a bunch of unrelated ideas into one thread.
-Don’t split one idea across multiple threads.
-When editing your suggestion, don't change it into something totally different.
-Finish it before you post it. Don't use the WIP tag.
-If you care about receiving likes and replies, you should also provide them to others.
-If people tell you to change something, hear them out. Your critics are not your enemies.
-Be kind to others, and be kind to yourself.
The most important thing to remember is that these are suggestions for vanilla Terraria. The more it seems to fit with content in the rest of the game, the better. Good suggestions directly incorporate and reference things that already exist in Terraria: NPCs, crafting materials, biomes. If your suggestion is a largely self-contained content module consisting of new weapons crafted from new materials obtained from new biomes, dropped by new bosses, and sold by new NPCs, then what you have made is essentially a mod. This doesn't necessarily mean that the ideas are bad, but it does make it unlikely that Relogic themselves will handle the implementation.
There are several ways you should approach creating content that seamlessly blends into vanilla Terraria.
-Crafting recipes. You should try to use existing, underused crafting ingredients if possible, but if the situation calls for it, don't be afraid to introduce a new crafting ingredient or two.
Simple is best. The most compelling crafting recipes are the ones that use only what is necessary to place your item in the stage of the game it needs to be. The fewer crafting ingredients you need to use, the better.
Try to keep the crafting ingredients thematically appropriate, as well. Items with a certain theme should be made with ingredients from the biome that fits that theme. Because different biomes are relevant at different stages of the game, this will probably be a delicate balance between balance and theming. Maintaining thematic integrity is one of the main reasons why it is often a good idea to invent new crafting ingredients. Yes, the game sometimes breaks this rule and adds Chlorophyte or Tissue Samples to recipes that aren't thematically related, but that doesn't mean it should be done that way!
Terraria rarely uses existing weapons as crafting ingredients for other weapons, and does so only when the crafted weapon makes the ingredient weapon obsolete. Weapons that are a combination of multiple other weapons (Night's Edge, Terra Blade, and Zenith) have always held a special iconic status in Terraria, so you should not suggest a combined mega-weapon unless you intend for it to be just as iconic as the three existing ones.
Terraria never uses accessories, armor pieces, or weapons as crafting ingredients for anything other than accessories, armor pieces, or weapons, respectively. Any combined item should retain most/all of the functions of whatever was used to create it. There are a few exceptions to the first rule (the Diving Helmet and some informational accessories), but they still abide by the second rule.
Terraria (and by extension, the Terraria community) prefers when items and their crafting materials are not too rare. Any useful item should not take more than around 30-45 minutes to obtain under ideal conditions.
If you introduce a renewable resource, you should also introduce recipes for consumable items (ammunition, buff potions, building materials) that utilize that resource. If the resource you introduced is not renewable, you should not.
-Game mechanics. I am aware that most of us are gamers, not programmers. (However, do note that all professional game designers have at least some programming knowledge. Consider starting with C# or Python.) Even if you aren't a programmer, if you play the game often and have a lot of hours clocked, and if you've been studying the changelogs throughout Terraria's version history, you should have some idea of what is realistic and what is not. For instance, "pocket dimensions" or "capturing and controlling enemies" may sound like cool concepts, but would require too much work to realistically add. This might be the most difficult thing to explain to someone with no experience, but it's very important; content will only be added if it can be added. But don't worry about it too much. Aside from things that could be the core mechanic of an entirely different game, most of the suggestions I see in this forum are technically possible to implement.
Content doesn't have to cater specifically to multiplayer, but it should at least work in multiplayer. If you cannot think of a way to make it work in multiplayer, that's fine, but you should acknowledge it in your main post.
In-depth familiarity with the game is extremely helpful for judging what can be implemented and what cannot. People who post here are generally expected to know somewhat obscure details, such as how piercing damage works. This knowledge will also help you defend/improve your ideas as you receive feedback. Also, try to familiarize yourself with gaming lingo such as “aggro” (enemy aggression range/targeting), “kite” (fighting while running away constantly), “noclip” (passing through solid objects), “AoE” (area of effect), and “hitscan” (instant hit at the cursor location with no delay). Don’t be afraid to pull up a Google search; everyone starts somewhere, and there's no shame in not knowing what those words mean yet.
There are also some dictionary words and acronyms with Terraria-specific meanings:
Mandatory - required to eventually fight Moon Lord.
Velocity - how fast a projectile travels. Not to be confused with speed, which can refer to either movement speed or weapon attack speed (aka useTime).
DR - damage reduction (percentage based). Coincidentally also the name of the studio behind the mobile version.
EoC, EoW, BoC, WoF, ML - abbreviated boss names. These are the most commonly understood abbreviations. Do not overuse acronyms; if you start talking about CS or FB with no context, no one is going to understand what you're talking about.
As demonstrated by the heavy limitations on the existing "Confused" debuff, messing with monster AI movement is tougher than it may seem. If you are thinking of having a weapon slow down enemies as part of its secondary effect, consider using additional projectiles and/or existing knockback mechanics to accomplish the same thing. As of the current version, no weapon inflicts the Slow or Frozen debuffs on its targets. Some mods have successfully implemented their own versions of these debuffs, so this advice may soon become outdated, but at least keep in mind that you cannot copy and paste player-only debuffs like Electrified and Bleeding onto enemies and expect them to work.
Most damage-over-time debuffs are completely inconsequential. Frostburn, On Fire, Poison, Acid Venom, and Cursed Inferno all contribute very little to a weapon's DPS, especially lategame. Try to come up with more creative secondary effects, and definitely don't invent new DoT debuffs that do basically the same thing.
Biomes with complex structures must be created during world generation. You should not insert new biomes in the middle of a playthrough, as that runs the risk of destroying player-made structures. Meteorite biomes are a well-known exception to this, but they're also very old and inconsistent with modern Terraria design choices. If an endgame biome exists at the start of the game, you'll need to think of a way to keep players out (hopefully one that doesn't involve oneshotting them with a giant spinning head).
-Game balance. Part of Terraria's appeal is the large variety of viable weapons and other equipment available to the player at each stage. Introducing new equipment that greatly outclasses everything else in its tier reduces the variety of equipment that the player is likely to use; rather than making the game better, this makes it worse. (This is a commonly-cited weakness of the content provided by the pillar events, as well as the current version of the Terra Blade.)
While you should avoid introducing overpowered content, you shouldn't be afraid to make your suggested content useful and reasonably powerful. It should be tempting enough to be worth considering for at least some situations. If something is too gimmicky to be practical, it will not be received well, and if you're too zealous in trying to make your content not overpowered, it can backfire.
There are several ways to balance equipment that most would consider overpowered. Making it extremely rare is NOT a proper way to achieve balance. An overpowered weapon with a 1 in 10,000 drop chance will still ruin the game balance for the one person who gets it, and for everyone else, it may as well not exist at all. Including this kind of content would reward players for luck rather than knowledge or skill, and is therefore heavily discouraged. If you still want to suggest an ultra-rare item, it should ideally be a cosmetic or joke item.
Balancing a weapon also does not mean making it heavily polarized, as the word "balance" suggests. Extremely long cooldowns, extremely short range, extremely high mana cost, direct penalties for usage — you should avoid resorting to measures like these unless you're absolutely sure that they're uniquely deserved. Identify what makes the weapon potentially overpowered, and tone it down to a reasonable level without destroying its appeal altogether.
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A lot of the time, people will talk about "tiers", and how a piece of equipment matches up with everything else in its "tier". What they mean by that is, how does it compare to the other equipment that becomes available at the same time? Tiers are mostly decided by boss kill order, so when you're trying to make something balanced, try to compare your content to another piece of existing equipment that's obtainable using roughly the same amount of effort. For the sake of convenience, I will roughly list the tiers that most people should acknowledge, in order of increasing power. If applicable, I'll also include a common crafting ingredient/item source from that tier.
Pre-hardmode, Skeletron/Queen Bee/Brain of Cthulhu/Eater of Worlds has been defeated. (Bones, Meteorite Bars, Hellstone Bars, Witch Doctor NPC)
Hardmode, no mechanical bosses have been defeated. (Cobalt-Titanium Bars, Souls of Light, Souls of Night, Frost Core, Forbidden Fragment)
One mechanical boss has been defeated. (Hallowed Bars, Steampunker NPC)
Three mechanical bosses have been defeated. (Chlorophyte, Souls of Fright+Sight+Might)
Plantera and Golem have been defeated. Items that drop from the final versions of the Dungeon and Solar Eclipse also belong in this tier. (Ectoplasm, Cyborg, Princess NPC)
Difficult events that can only be triggered after Plantera/Golem have been defeated. Includes Pumpkin Moon, Betsy, Martian Madness, Frost Moon, and Duke Fishron.
Everything obtainable after you kill the Cultists at the dungeon entrance, but before defeating Moon Lord. (Ancient Manipulator, pillar fragments)
Moon Lord drops and items crafted with Luminite.
Nothing past this point really matters since the final boss is already dead. This is the only "tier" where it is acceptable to introduce extremely overpowered items like Zenith.
This applies to enemies, too. Enemies should be compared to other enemies that you might encounter at that stage of the game. Don't worry about being precise with the stats and numbers; the people who reply should help you come to a decision on what would be fair, and the specific numbers are probably the least important part of any suggestion. Remember that you are suggesting content for the benefit of the game, and that you and the developers should be on the same side.
-Creativity. Terraria is a famously silly game, and when browsing through suggestions, people are less likely to support a generic-looking gun and more likely to support a potato-shaped gun named "Loaded Baked Potato", even if they work exactly the same. This is not an absolute rule, of course. Not all Terraria content is silly, and not every suggestion needs to be silly. But if you think you can add a bit of harmless surrealism, your idea will probably be better received for it.
Another important thing to remember is that ultimately, suggestions should be made with the intent to make the game better. This sounds obvious. But I often see threads that seem to be introducing new content simply for the sake of adding new content, which is fine, but these suggestions don't tend to become very popular unless they are high effort threads complete with artwork. No, the most compelling reason for adding new content to vanilla Terraria is to make the game feel more complete. Perhaps you feel like a certain existing biome, such as the Ocean, Sky layer, or Underworld, is too barren at a certain stage of progression. Perhaps you think there was a missed opportunity with an existing piece of equipment. Whatever the reason may be, something compelled you to sit down and think about typing up a new thread to post in Player Suggestions. To put it simply, the best suggestions are the ones that solve a problem. This is a game in development (and will be for the foreseeable future), so you're bound to find some here or there. You can also talk to your friends, or strangers on Discord to see what they think.
You also must be very cautious when suggesting things that will make part of the game easier or harder. For the latter, consider making it an Expert mode-exclusive suggestion, because Expert and Master mode are supposed to be hard. For the former, you should probably create a thread in General Talk to see if the majority of other people share your opinion, just to test the waters a bit.
Terraria players have a very wide range of skill levels and experience, and there are millions of them who all have their own reasons for enjoying the game, so there's a lot of pressure for Re-Logic to release updates that will be well-received by all. If an idea is likely to influence the game in ways that some will like and others will dislike, it may be more appropriate to propose it as either a mod or a special world seed.
The rest of the thread is going to be for scattered tidbits of advice that aren't related to game design.
The effort that you put into making the thread really matters. People are more likely to support suggestions that the creator put a lot of care and thought into. There are several ways for to demonstrate that you really care about your idea:
Try to format the thread for readability the best you can. Break up your paragraphs, and use bullet points when appropriate.
Type out your sentences properly. Make it look official. If English isn't your native language, just do your best and people will respect your efforts.
If you can make pixel art, consider illustrating your thread with sprites if your idea calls for it. Even concept art drawn by hand or with MS Paint can be used if you think it will help. (If you draw by hand, I recommend the free mobile app Genius Scan for scanning clean images of your drawings.) If you want sprites, you can also recruit the help of the spriting community, some of whom might be willing to take requests. If you're interested in joining the spriting community yourself, this guide can help you get started. You may not think of yourself as a spriter, but neither did I until I started doing it. If you are proficient at traditional art, you should learn pixel art fairly quickly.
For the sake of organization, please post one thread for each idea! To reduce clutter and make threads easier to search for, we prefer each thread to be dedicated to the discussion of one main idea. This also means that you should not unnecessarily split one idea into multiple threads. (I have done this in the past, and I shouldn't have.)
Minor suggestions are still valuable. In fact, they have a better chance of being added into Terraria if doing so would be relatively simple. I would recommend starting off with simple, easy suggestions rather than something really ambitious that you may not be able to handle on your own. Even after you've gained some experience, you will still find yourself coming up with relatively small, but valuable ideas. Post them!
Use the title as a description.Writing a title that simply says "Cool stuff" or "An idea I had for the next update" will most likely attract the wrong kind of attention. If your suggestion is worth viewing, then a brief description of its contents should be enough to grab people's interest. If you've ever written a research report or any academic paper before, you know what I'm talking about.
Read and respond to other suggestions. Not only will you gain a better idea of which elements are frequently found in popular suggestions, but if you can remember which ideas have already been posted, you'll avoid the awkwardness of posting threads that are highly similar to ones made by others. Also, replying to other people's suggestions gives them publicity, which they usually appreciate. If you find an old thread that proposes a good idea that still hasn't been added, go ahead and necro it!
Speaking of which, you should search before you post a thread so you can be sure your idea is not a duplicate. This is listed in the Rules and Guidelines, but I'll repeat it just to be sure. And even if it's not a complete duplicate, it is better to have at least two people discussing their thoughts on similar ideas than to keep them separate.
You might notice that there is a WIP tag that you can add to suggestions that are not fully complete when posted. I advise against using the WIP tag. Generally, it is much better to submit your thread in its final form; it will be much more impressive and probably better received. You should take as much time as you need to polish your ideas. Just like how a good game developer won't publish their shoddy pre-alpha build on Steam, a good game designer won't show anyone their barebones design doc either.
You have the option to include a poll. Avoid using the poll as a measure of your thread's popularity. The Like button already fulfills that function. The poll is mostly there for fun, or you can use it to find out the public's opinion on a topic directly related to the topic of your suggestion. Just don't use it as a popularity gauge (or unpopularity gauge) when it can be used for more productive purposes. (I have also done this in the past, and I shouldn't have.)
Respond properly to feedback.Some people might love your suggestion, some people might not. But the good thing is that anyone who disapproves will usually give a reason for their disapproval. Always consider that they may be right, and be open about modifying your suggestion to accommodate their concerns. This is how suggestions improve over time!
Of course, just like how you shouldn't assume that all criticism is wrong, you shouldn't assume that all criticism is right, either. Sometimes you'll receive feedback that you don't agree with. In that case, it'll be your turn to politely but firmly provide your own reasoning as to why your suggestion should remain as is. The question of "how do I know if the other person is right or not" is one that can only be answered with experience, so my advice is just to keep playing the game, reading/making suggestions, and acknowledging that you will sometimes be wrong about something and that is OK.
If you do decide that some changes to your suggestion are in order, keep in mind that no alerts are given when you publish an edit to the main post. Add a reply to the thread describing the changes you made, and also acknowledging the people who provided feedback (if applicable).
There are also certain guidelines that you should try to follow when posting on the suggestion threads of others.
If you like the idea, then you should like the post. This is very simple, and recommended for at least one good reason: If the thread creator gets an alert that tells them that someone quoted their post, they will probably be on the defensive unless you also leave them a like. (After all, a quote with no like is what people usually do when they disagree.) Plus, the thread creator might be puzzled if you voice your approval without liking the main post.
And if you're replying to a thread you don't agree with, don't say "no support". If you don't support an idea in its current state, then it should be apparent from the rest of your reply. It is far more productive to explain exactly what it is about an idea that bothers you, and if applicable, what the thread creator could do to address your concern. Saying "no support" is like passing premature judgement before the thread creator can incorporate your feedback, and could be seen as unnecessarily inflammatory.
You should try to reply when possible. Especially on straightforward suggestion threads that most people would agree with, liking the main post without replying is a common thing to see. There is nothing wrong with doing this, of course! But keep in mind that replying to a thread gives the thread attention, which is the best gift you can bestow upon a suggestion, especially if it's clearly the thread creator's labor of love. If you can think of a meaningful way to contribute to the discussion of an idea you support, I highly encourage you to do so.
On a final note: while this forum is the most official way to submit suggestions for Terraria, it is still mostly for fun and entertainment, and it's best not to get too emotionally invested in a suggestion (either yours or someone else's). Among player-made suggestions, Re-Logic usually prefers to add simpler, easy-to-execute ones that pertain to quality of life. But suggestions do get accepted here, so don't lose hope! Thanks for reading my guide, and I'll be seeing you around the forums!
So not that my idea I posted is more worthy of being seen than any other, but I would like to know how you'd think it measures up. I kinda just made an account specifically to share the idea and only after coming back here for the third or fourth time do I now see this and feel like my post is probably pretty sub-par...but the information is helpful and appreciated so don't mistake me when I say thank you for sharing! ^^
There is no such thing as gravity. You can be underwater for an unlimited amount of time without drowning. Jumping from a Sky Island doesn't result in you splatting and dying. Pickaxes are used to drink water, not mine up blocks. Getting attacked by enemies has no effect on how long you'll live. Armor doesn't protect you at all. It's just a vanity effect. Grass doesn't grow. There is no day/night cycle. There is not magma at the center/bottom of the world. Touching something hot doesn't burn you. Poison doesn't have any affect on your health. Diving Gear doesn't let you stay underwater longer than your supposed to. You instantly reach maximum velocity while running; there's no such thing as acceleration.
Yeah. Totally. No logic in Terraria whatsoever. Absolutely nothing sounds like anything logical from real life.
There is a difference between real logic and gameplay logic. Real logic is something that mirrors the real world (like gravity exists in both Terraria and IRL). However, gameplay logic just means something that makes sense in terms of balancing and progression. Giving terraria blocks gravity is good real logic, but bad gameplay logic, because that destroys the whole sandbox aspect of the game. In general, gameplay logic should always be prioritized over real logic.
...as a new forum user it's not always easy to get suggestion-related advice from forum veterans. This is because many of our forum veterans have posted essentially the exact same replies to many different threads over the years, meaning that they might not bother replying to yours.
Is this even true anymore? Rather, was it ever true? I don't feel like we see repeats that often, and it doesn't seem like anyone uses that as a reason not to reply. Or maybe the culture of this subforum has just improved over time.
Is this even true anymore? Rather, was it ever true? I don't feel like we see repeats that often, and it doesn't seem like anyone uses that as a reason not to reply. Or maybe the culture of this subforum has just improved over time.
I think most threads have the same problems, and most forum veterans have recognized those problems, so most of them are forced to say the same thing? Idk.
I think most threads have the same problems, and most forum veterans have recognized those problems, so most of them are forced to say the same thing? Idk.
This is certainly the case for some suggestions, without a doubt. However, I feel that most suggestions deserve a response if one is warranted. Everyone deserves their shot.
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