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Comments on Profile Post by The Wuff

  1. The Wuff
    The Wuff
    ...what i mean by 'packing' is stuff being put onto them like "Smoking kills" and "This is what's happening to your body when you smoke!" and pictures of whats happening to kids when you smoke around them, that ain't gonna stop someone from smoking! they're just gonna ignore the packing and go straight for the Cig/:red2:/whatever you wanna call it,
    Jan 22, 2015
  2. The Wuff
    The Wuff
    Why can't they just :red:ing Ban that :red: already?? it's Horrible, it damages your body and other people Around you... aswell as that medical problem, i forget the name... but its like a breathing problem or something...
    Jan 22, 2015
  3. suu
    suu
    It's stopped millions of smokers from smoking. They simply can't ban since do you know big Cigarette companies are? So many people would lose their jobs and the economy would be greatly damaged.
    Jan 22, 2015
  4. Kyouko Tsukino
    Kyouko Tsukino
    Second hand smoking kills more people than smoking the things yourself, so yeah.

    Still, worse things are allowed to exist. If you must have a reason why smoking is still a thing: Money.

    (May want to edit out the second term you used - that word is a no, no matter if you "meant" it as cigar. Nobody uses it for cigar anymore.)
    Jan 22, 2015
  5. Kyouko Tsukino
    Kyouko Tsukino
    About those ads in the packages... They have the desired effect: They're not a warning, they're a dare sent out to those with either a big ego or a small mind. "Hah, that won't happen to me!" is what they'll think when seeing those 'warnings.'
    Jan 22, 2015
  6. suu
    suu
    Dunno where Razor Knight gets his facts, but he's wrong. I'll tell him why he is, but he's ignored me so there's not much point in it. But his "effect" is very false.
    Jan 22, 2015
  7. Vizendel
    Vizendel
    If you don't like smoking you could just stick to non-smoking areas. It's such a massive commodity and such an important part of the world's economy that it will never be gone, not matter how much it makes you cough and feel sick.
    Jan 22, 2015
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  8. suu
    suu
    E-Cig's are even worse than regular Cigarettes, so that's one bright-side.
    Jan 22, 2015
  9. Kyouko Tsukino
    Kyouko Tsukino
    I love it when people thinks that "cough and feel sick" is all a cigar does to you.

    I was born asthmatic, and as such, I will never respect anyone who smokes, for they've always been there to make my life hellish.

    And really, "non-smoking areas" are a lot of help when you're out in the street, where everyone smokes wherever they feel like smoking.
    Jan 22, 2015
  10. Vizendel
    Vizendel
    I'm asthmatic too, it makes me feel terrible. I'd never deign to tell a dude he's not to smoke near me though, because that's his right and it's his body.

    Stop standing out in the street if you don't want to be near smokers.
    Jan 22, 2015
  11. Kyouko Tsukino
    Kyouko Tsukino
    "His right and his body", seriously? No. Their right to pollute the air (which isn't part of their body) ends where the right of others to breathe starts.

    And your second paragraph is just... I'm not sure if I should laugh at you or with you there.
    Jan 22, 2015
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  12. Kyouko Tsukino
    Kyouko Tsukino
    Next up, it'll be okay for people to force you to drink beer. Hey, it's their body and their right!
    Jan 22, 2015
  13. Vizendel
    Vizendel
    You can laugh at me all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you should just get off the streets if every square inch of air is that polluted that you simply cannot survive.
    Jan 22, 2015
  14. Kyouko Tsukino
    Kyouko Tsukino
    Yes, letting others :red: you over and force you to be locked inside solves problems.

    Nevermind tho. I don't think this argument will prove anything other than there being masochistic asthmatics out there.
    Jan 22, 2015
  15. Vizendel
    Vizendel
    Well I won't deny I have masochistic tendencies but that's neither here nor there.
    I just think that if you cannot deal with being out in the streets where people smoke for even a half-hour you need to eat a tablespoon of concrete and toughen up.
    Jan 22, 2015
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  16. suu
    suu
    Here-here, Viz.
    Jan 22, 2015
  17. The Wuff
    The Wuff
    "Vizendel If you don't like smoking you could just stick to non-smoking areas" Aye sure... Waiting for a bus to get home from college, theres lots of non-smoking areas- oh wait, there isn't any!! Hell theres even them E-Cig users in my :red:ing College class and they can use them without even being told off! What the actual :red: is wrong with people these days eh??
    Jan 22, 2015
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  18. suu
    suu
    Really depends on the country and the place.
    Jan 23, 2015
  19. TheQuietBisharp
    TheQuietBisharp
    It sucks to see kids at my bus stop smoke. It sucks to see kids in my grade smoke. But what really sucks is that my uncle went from no smoking to E-cigs. It sucks most of all to not be able to do anything about it.
    Jan 23, 2015
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  20. Nev
    Nev
    You people are aware that smoking is an incredibly strong addiction? A fun fact; heroin users have a higher percentage of quitters than smokers. People don't smoke just to be :red:s or to annoy you specifically. @The Wuff E-Cigarettes aren't real cigarettes. They contain no tobacco, and the "smoke" is just water vapor. They're basically glorified nicotine pills.
    Jan 23, 2015
  21. suu
    suu
    I'm well aware about how addictive nicotine is.

    But E-Cigs are even more dangerous than regular cigs.
    Jan 23, 2015
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  22. Nev
    Nev
    That's actually bull:red:. One reason e-cigs have not replaced the real deal is tobacco companies. They've done all they can to stop the e-cig from becoming commonplace because money. The other is misinformed people to whom the e-cig is just another nicotine product and therefore inherently evil.
    Jan 23, 2015
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  23. Nev
    Nev
    The facts are as follows; The only compound an e-cig releases is nicotine, leaving out all the crap normal cigarettes contain. Also, as the "smoke" is only water vapor, e-cigs would literally eliminate the concept of second-hand smoking altogether.
    Jan 23, 2015
  24. Kyouko Tsukino
    Kyouko Tsukino
    I've seen e-cigs around and researched on them - a very good way to bring the same addiction (because nicotine) without murdering others, and greatly reducing the rate at which you kill yourself, too.

    Win/win, except for the :red:s ru(i)nning the world.
    Jan 23, 2015
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  25. Nev
    Nev
    Does it show that my reply was originally too long, so I had to delete part of it, then decided to split it in two and now it doesn't kinda make sense? I was about to clarify but Razor did it for me.
    Jan 23, 2015
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  26. suu
    suu
    And where do you get your facts from, Nev?

    The World Health Organisation called for them to be banned from indoors. You can even do a simple Google search about if they're bad or not, and there's countless articles from Health Websites and Universities saying that they are still dangerous.

    Here's a simplified video if you want to check it out:
    Jan 23, 2015
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  27. Nev
    Nev
    You're seriously using a study by WHO as an absolute authority? Check a few facts, their track record not to mention conduct is less than stellar at places. The latest example would be the swine flu-vaccine they claimed was perfectly safe that gave a :red:load of kids in my country narcolepsy.
    Jan 23, 2015
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  28. Nev
    Nev
    There's hundreds if not thousands of brands of e-cigs, so of course there's going to be :red:ty ripoffs. I can only assume WHO used these in their tests, as I have seen reports by neutral parties that listed all the ingredients in several brands of e-cigs, and it literally was nicotine and those long-named compounds that make stuff taste like other stuff.
    Jan 23, 2015
  29. Nev
    Nev
    The reason some manufacturers add that crap in their product is the same why that crap is present in normal cigs; they can jack up the price. There are many "honest" brands out there, but the lack of specific legislation means they drown in the sea of ripoffs. As for the second hand smoke-thing, the water vapor is not connected to the nicotine tank, so no actual second hand smoking happens.
    Jan 23, 2015
  30. suu
    suu
    Want more information? Check the description.

    Other than that, you didn't say anything to counter argue against that video apart from saying that they are wrong.
    Jan 23, 2015
  31. TheQuietBisharp
    TheQuietBisharp
    Please, lets not start a war here, shall we?
    Jan 23, 2015
  32. suu
    suu
    I don't think it's a flamewar unless insults start to be thrown at each other. As once as there's an insult, I'll stop, report, and move on.

    Sorry if this is spamming up your alerts, btw.
    Jan 23, 2015
  33. TheQuietBisharp
    TheQuietBisharp
    I commented on Crowno's status, I'm prepared for that stuff.
    Jan 23, 2015
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  34. suu
    suu
    Ahahah. XD
    Jan 23, 2015
  35. Nev
    Nev
    I totally forgot this wasn't my profile page! Crap. Should we take this to PM or something?
    Jan 23, 2015
  36. suu
    suu
    If ya' want, Nev! c:

    Just as long as it doesn't turn up any bad blood between you and I, that'll suck.
    Jan 23, 2015
  37. Nev
    Nev
    No bad blood, I think this has actually been one of the more civilized discussions on this forum! Then again, I'm sober for a change so that may explain it. :D
    Jan 23, 2015
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  38. suu
    suu
    Ahaha, most likely.
    Jan 23, 2015
  39. The Wuff
    The Wuff
    i don't really Mind you lot talking about this stuff on my profile, i did sorta Start it off anyways...
    Jan 24, 2015