Weapons & Equip A (not really) new Summoner Weapon: The Staff?

[DJFlare84]

Okay hear me out, let's change up summoning staves a bit.

Let's move the actual summon effect to right-click, while Left-Click lets you swing the staff as a melee weapon that has significant knockback and applies a slowdown debuff, making it easier for minions to attack (we can call this the Summoner's Snare). This attack also marks the last enemy struck.

Perhaps there could be some cool magical energy effect to extend the attack's effective radius unique to each staff (but not as far-reaching as whips of course). Maybe just a simple short-ranged energy projectile like the Death Sickle (that does Summoning Damage).

I'd also really like it if holding the left-click made the staff spin around and hurt enemies around you like a Flail, and only releasing it performed the bigger slam attack.

Not strong enough? Simple enough to resolve.

Let's make them deal more damage and give a defense buff to the player for daring to get up close to use them.

 

[daedaLus stormNo]

Why would you ever use a this over a whip

 

[Aceplante]

Why would you ever use a this over a whip

Perhaps left clicking an enemy could tag them and direct your minions to attack the specified target, similar to whips but without the damage, and summoning would be right click

 

[daedaLus stormNo]

Perhaps left clicking an enemy could tag them and direct your minions to attack the specified target, similar to whips but without the damage, and summoning would be right click

So why would you ever use this over a whip if it does the same thing as a whip with no damage

 

[Aceplante]

So why would you ever use this over a whip if it does the same thing as a whip with no damage

I dont know, but it would be a cool feature of staffs; to be able to direct summons like whips can

 

[Shаyd]

I dont know, but it would be a cool feature of staffs; to be able to direct summons like whips can

Minion targeting has existed long before whips existed. Right-clicking on an enemy activates targeting that enemy.

 

[Aceplante]

Even without a staff?? it should be restricted to staffs then

 

[Shаyd]

Even without a staff?? it should be restricted to staffs then

Of course, with a staff

 

[R3verse]

Why would you ever use a this over a whip

when using slow summons in early game there wouldn't need to be a progression of the weapon just an early easy to obtain summon weapon

 

[DJFlare84]

Why would you ever use a this over a whip

Not strong enough? Simple enough to resolve.

Let's make them deal more damage and give a defense buff to the player for daring to get up close to use them.

 

[daedaLus stormNo]

Not strong enough? Simple enough to resolve.

Let's make them deal more damage and give a defense buff to the player for daring to get up close to use them.

The defense buff would need to be massive to be better than using whips

 

[Nemo]

Why would you ever use a this over a whip

Why would we need a separate weapon that's the whip? Now we have to farm 2 weapons instead of one like everyone else.

 

[DJFlare84]

The defense buff would need to be massive to be better than using whips

I have no problem with that. I'm sure the dev team would know what value to set it to.

 

[sethicus]

Why would we need a separate weapon that's the whip? Now we have to farm 2 weapons instead of one like everyone else.

so that you have options, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. summoner is such a limited class in terms of options. you really only get one or two weapons to choose from during progression, and sometimes that option is nothing! just use what you've been using for the previous point of progression. it makes me glad to see that they've been working on fixing this (we now have a grand total of 2 pre-boss weapons, a whip and a rare minion drop from slimes), but it's still way behind.

 

[daedaLus stormNo]

so that you have options, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. summoner is such a limited class in terms of options. you really only get one or two weapons to choose from during progression, and sometimes that option is nothing! just use what you've been using for the previous point of progression. it makes me glad to see that they've been working on fixing this (we now have a grand total of 2 pre-boss weapons, a whip and a rare minion drop from slimes), but it's still way behind.

Theres like 12 pre boss summoner weapons