Game Mechanics Minion HP

[All Seeing Eye]

The title says it all. Let's have minions have hp. In addition to this. I would propose that each minion summon should also cost hp in addition to mana cost. I hope this would allow minions to enter pvp it

Edit: This would also allow healing staffs that would allow you to heal your minions.

Edit 2: Because of minions having hp they'd become squishy so I'd suggest that they'd copy the summoner's dedense

Ps. I got this idea from one of @XenoCat 's thread (XD sry bro)

 

[XenoCat]

Bruh. Just bruh.

 

[Nobody Important]

I would like summoner to not be afk, which is why I load up weapons like the horsemans blade and stake launcher. This nerf to summoners would make them so pathetically weak that nobody would ever play as them. Especially with things like the raven staff and the spider staff, those have to make contact in order to harm enemies. Now they'd be worthless. So basically what I'm trying to say is no.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I would like summoner to not be afk, which is why I load up weapons like the horsemans blade and stake launcher. This nerf to summoners would make them so pathetically weak that nobody would ever play as them. Especially with things like the raven staff and the spider staff, those have to make contact in order to harm enemies. Now they'd be worthless. So basically what I'm trying to say is no.

They wouldn't be that weak. For example th baby slime would have would have 100ish life and a nerf like this would alwats come with a buff so its damage would bow be buffed to 10 or so... and for the ravens and spiders I did suggest some minion healing staff

 

[Nobody Important]

They wouldn't be that weak. For example th baby slime would have would have 100ish life and a nerf like this would alwats come with a buff so its damage would bow be buffed to 10 or so... and for the ravens and spiders I did suggest some minion healing staff

Even if I accepted your logic there's one thing you're forgetting. It would require a complete reworking of minions including new hitboxes.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Even if I accepted your logic there's one thing you're forgetting. It would require a complete reworking of minions including new hitboxes.

Welp, success always comes after hardwork.

 

[SnailsAttack]

This is a terrible idea! Minions are supposed to protect the user, not cost them health! Why would this enable them to enter pvp? Why do you think that summoners = sitting around letting minions attack everything? The summoner class is a lot more than that. I suggest rethinking this suggestion.

 

[Nobody Important]

Welp, success always comes after hardwork.

It doesn't matter if we're going full speed ahead if we are facing backwards whole time.

The question is what will we gain?

 

[The Mythical Dagger]

Along with what everyone else said, I must also add: What about the melee based minions? How would THAT work? Also, PVP isn't really a major thing in the game to revolve around. If it was, I'm sure minions would already have a PVP aspect to them...

Also, what about Lizardh Traps. People are able to AFK with those, so should we nerf them? Probably not, since that defeats the purpose of traps, as the same for minions

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Minions are supposed to protect the user, not cost them health

I don't know what youd think but for me it makes the summoner class a bit more challenging to play

Why would this enable them to enter pvp?

Because minions are now attackable by other players a
nd because minions now cost life to summon.

 

[Warpshard]

No thanks. When you're fighting a very strong monster or a boss, it'd get very tedious to have to resummon your minions. In addition, why should Minions take health to summon? It may be logical from a realistic perspective, but not from a gameplay perspective. No other magic of any sort requires life to use as well as Mana, so minions requiring it would just be odd.

Also, summoners are not an AFK class, since they have to constantly dodge in order to keep themselves from getting turned into a smear on the ground. The endgame armor set for summoners (the Stardust armor, for those of you who don't know) offers a grand total of 36 defense. Comparatively, Solar Flare armor provides 78 defense by itself. Even with 78 defense, it's still very easy to get killed by endgame monsters and bosses, such as the Duke. Compare that to the Summoner, who can do nothing but run and hope that their minions are capable of killing whatever monster that they are hunting. With that little defense, it's hardly the kind of class that is capable of tanking in normal situations (By that, I mean no automatic killing machines like the Pumpkin Moon Farm).

 

[All Seeing Eye]

What about the melee based minions? How would THAT work?

No thanks. When you're fighting a very strong monster or a boss, it'd get very tedious to have to resummon your minions.

I did suggest some minion healing staffs

Well, the problem right now is that the devs made summoner armor paper because you have Immortal minions that autoattack enemies.

 

[XenoCat]

I still feel like you kind of ripped my idea off here >.<

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I still feel like you kind of ripped my idea off here >.<

I'm sorry ill credit you hahaha

 

[XenoCat]

I'm sorry ill credit you hahaha

Well, it doesn't matter, this isn't quite what I mean't in my suggestion

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Also, what about Lizardh Traps. People are able to AFK with those, so should we nerf them? Probably not, since that defeats the purpose of traps, as the same for minions

This isn't that much of a nerf because minions would then gain a damage boost and minion armor would maybe gain more defense

 

[Private Cupcakes]

Well really, think about what this would add to the game, instead of

Let's see how this will change the game, devs!

Is this change really needed? Even if minions could be killed in PvP, their ability to stay on the target would make them OP.

 

[XenoCat]

A lot of people are mentioning PVP here and there, and I want to clear up that minions already can be used in PVP.

 

[Private Cupcakes]

A lot of people are mentioning PVP here and there, and I want to clear up that minions already can be used in PVP.

They can be used in PvP, but they won't actively target players, so summoners are useless, save for the occasional minions that do contact damage.

 

[Azu]

I don't know what youd think but for me it makes the summoner class a bit more challenging to play

Because minions are now attackable by other players a
nd because minions now cost life to summon.

I hope this would allow minions to enter pvp

How? Minions do not attack other players, so anyone being a summoner is basically a glass bowl on the edge of a table with a stick.

The title says it all. Let's have minions have hp. In addition to this. I would propose that each minion summon should also cost hp in addition to mana cost.Let's see how this will change the game, devs! I hope this would allow minions to enter pvp

Edit: This would also allow healing staffs that would allow you to heal your minions.

Ps. I got this idea from one of @XenoCat 's thread (XD sry bro)

First off, stealing others ideas they had already written down in a thread is sorta a move, especially when you turn the blame on them when things turn south, and EVEN MORE SO when you misinterpret the meaning of said idea and post it.
And why cost health? That just means if I'm loww on health and have potion sickness I could easily accidentally kill myself, which is not fun. This would add nothing to the game but the erasure of the summoner class as a viable option.