Weapons & Equip More Love to the summoner

Should these gets added?

  • yeah

    Votes: 2 25.0%

  • some of them should be added

    Votes: 2 25.0%

  • with some changes, yes (comment)

    Votes: 3 37.5%

  • maybe

    Votes: 1 12.5%

  • nah

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    8
Terrarian_37

Terrarian_37

Skeletron Prime
summoner needs more love, give summoner more love.


New Pre Boss Stuff

Living Tree Staff Living Tree Staff (1).png
Guaranteed to be found in at least one living tree

summon damage: 5
knockback: 2 (very weak)
mana cost: 10
use time: 21 (fast)
velocity: 10
Tool Tip: summons a living tree to fight for you
Concept: summons living tree's that will fire leaves at your enemies

Strange Leaf Strange Leaf.png
1/30 chance to be dropped when chopping down an entire jungle tree

Increases Minion Damage By 10%


New Pre Hardmode stuff

Corruption Staff Corruption Staff (1).png
weaker than the crimson one, but faster.
crafted with
Demonite_Bar.png
10 +
Shadow_Scale.png
15 at
Iron_Anvil.png
/
Lead_Anvil.png


Summon Damage: 14
Knockback: 2 (very weak)
Mana cost: 10
Use time: 19 (very fast)
Velocity: 10
Tool Tip: Summons baby Eater of worlds to fight for you
Concept: worms will chase after the target dealing damage, unlike the stardust dragon, the worm wont get bigger if you summon more, it will spawn multiple ones instead.

Crimson Staff Flesh_Grinder (1).png
Stronger than the corruption one, but slower.
Crafted with
Crimtane_Bar.png
10 +
Tissue_Sample.png
15 at
Iron_Anvil.png
/
Lead_Anvil.png


Summon Damage: 26
KnockBack: 2 (very weak)
Mana cost: 10
Use time: 36 (very slow)
Velocity: 10
Tool Tip: Summons Baby Creeper's to fight for you
Concept: Creepers will surround you and attack the target one by one, they can attack multiple targets at once.


New Pre Mech Bosses Stuff

Pearl Wood Armor
Pearlwood_Helmet.png
Pearlwood_Breastplate.png
Pearlwood_Greaves.png

lets buff this bad boy and make it useful for once.

Pearl Wood Helmet
Pearlwood_Helmet.png

Defense: 4 (the current defense is 2)
Increases your max number of minions by 1 (this stat isn't currently in the game)
increases minion damage by 4% (this stat isn't currently in the game)

Pearl Wood BreastPlate
Pearlwood_Breastplate.png

Defense: 5 (the current defense is 3)
Increases your max number of minions by 1 (this stat isn't currently in the game)
increases minion damage by 4% (this stat isn't currently in the game)

Pearl Wood Greaves
Pearlwood_Greaves.png

Defense: 3 (the current defense is 2)
Increases your max number of minions by 1 (this stat isn't currently in the game)
increases minion damage by 4% (this stat isn't currently in the game)

Set Bonus: +3 extra defense


Strange Hallowed LeafStrange Hallowed Leaf.png
1/30 Chance to be dropped when chopping down an entire Hallowed tree

Increases Your max number of minions by 1

Extremely Strange LeafExtremely Strange Leaf.png
Crafted With Strange Leaf.png1 + Strange Hallowed Leaf.png1 at
Mythril_Anvil.png
/
Orichalcum_Anvil.png


Increases Your Max number of minions by 1
increases summon Damage by 7%


New Pre Plantera Stuff

Mechanical Corruption Staff Mechanical Corruption Staff (1).png
Greatly Faster than than the crimson
Crafted With Corruption Staff (1).png1 +
Soul_of_Might.gif
20 +
Iron_Bar.png
5 at
Mythril_Anvil.png
/
Orichalcum_Anvil.png

Summon Damage: 27
KnockBack: 2 (very weak)
Mana cost: 10
Use time: 17 (very fast)
Velocity: 10
Tool Tip: Summons a baby destroyer to fight for you
Concept: if summoned more than once, multiple destroyers do not spawn — instead, the first spawned destroyer becomes longer by one segment similar to the stardust dragon. however its way slower than the stardust dragon.

Mechanical Crimson Staff Mechanical Crimson Staff (2).png
Greatly Stronger than the corruption
Crafted With Flesh_Grinder (1).png1 +
Soul_of_Fright.gif
20 +
Iron_Bar.png
5 at
Mythril_Anvil.png
/
Orichalcum_Anvil.png

Summon Damage: 35
KnockBack: 4 (weak)
Mana cost: 10
Use time: 40 (Very Slow)
Velocity: 10
Tool Tip: Summons a Mechanical Creeper to fight for you to fight for you
Concept: mechanical creepers will surround you, they will attack the target one by one. the mechanical creepers will shoot lasers at the target dealing only 33% of the summon damage, they the lasers one by one every 1.5 seconds.


New Pre Golem Stuff

Extremely Strange ScrollExtremely strange scroll.png
Crafted With
Papyrus_Scarab.png
1 + Extremely Strange Leaf.png 1 at
Mythril_Anvil.png
/
Orichalcum_Anvil.png


Increases Your Max number of minions by 2
Increases your minion damage by 30%
increases minion knockback


New Pre Celestial event Stuff


Im out of ideas for this one


scrapped ideas:

Broken Hero Staff.png broken hero staff

True Corruption Staff.png true corruption staff
true crimson staff (didn't make a sprite for this one)


have any ideas for the summoner? comment them below, tell me if you want me to edit them in.
 
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I'm quite certain they aren't precisely balanced correctly, but these are all good ideas for patching up some of the more lacking portions. You have my support, more or less.
 
I think maybe the crimson staff should be a bit faster and a bit weaker, and the opposite for the corruption staff, just to make it more balanced.
 
Well, yeah, as stated before, moving deep hardmode items into earliest stages is not ok (leafs).

I assume Baby Devourers are just flying and overall act close to Spazmamini/Raven or even worse (better) - Stardust Dragon? Then they are plain too good for pre-hardmode as I said in another thread.

Baby Creepers work more like Spirit Flame or Chlorophyte armor leaf or maybe Tempest Staff Sharknados, just w/o disappearing, right? 26 damage might be too much for pre-hardmode even w/o knowing other parameters. Still, might be an interesting weapon.

Also, "faster" but "weaker" in terms of weapon stats makes no sense for summoner, it becomes plain "weaker", as cast speed is irrelevant. Minions only get summoned once and then keep doing their job.
 
Mislic said:
Well, yeah, as stated before, moving deep hardmode items into earliest stages is not ok (leafs).

I assume Baby Devourers are just flying and overall act close to Spazmamini/Raven or even worse (better) - Stardust Dragon? Then they are plain too good for pre-hardmode as I said in another thread.

Baby Creepers work more like Spirit Flame or Chlorophyte armor leaf or maybe Tempest Staff Sharknados, just w/o disappearing, right? 26 damage might be too much for pre-hardmode even w/o knowing other parameters. Still, might be an interesting weapon.

Also, "faster" but "weaker" in terms of weapon stats makes no sense for summoner, it becomes plain "weaker", as cast speed is irrelevant. Minions only get summoned once and then keep doing their job.
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I think they meant firing speed
 
Mislic said:
Yeah, maybe, was hoping so. But then saw huge difference is use time (19/36) and felt all the sadness :( Also, how can body-bumping minion have a "firing speed" parameter?
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They already have varying integers for how often they attempt to body-slam.
 
Lord Garak said:
There is no reason to suspect enemies that attack with contact damage cannot control the time between attacks the same as a projectile.
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You mean "minions", not "enemies", right? If so, then most of body-slamming minion (slimes, spiders, spazmaminis, stardust dragon) in sufficient numbers just hit the reachable enemy the max possible times per second (6 times per second for slimes, 10 for stardust dragon for example). That's their "firing speed". It does not depend on their behavior. But yeah, ofc, it's possible to introduce new behaviors that might actually be dependent on some player stats like firing speed even.
 
I think what summoner needs is to have the accidental nerfs to the later summoner armors. Give Tiki, Spooky, and Stardust a +1 turret summon so that you can have both moon lord drops out at once. Right now I need to take up one of my equipment slots just so that I can have both my vortex and crystal out at the same time when I used to be able to already do that pre-Eternia update.
 
strange leaf increases minion damage instead of max minions
strange hallowed leaf increases max minions instead of minion damage
corruption staff spawns baby eater of worlds instead of devouver's (not a buff)
added the mechanical crimson and mechanical corruption staff
 
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