Weapons & Equip potential buff to tiki armor

[lithnotlilith]

(i’m getting these stats from the terraria wiki.gg)
in 1.4.1 the obsidian armor got buffed to give +50% whip range, +50% whip speed, +43% summon damage, & +1 minion slot
this was obviously unbalanced, as it made the rest of pre-hm too easy & remained viable even against moonlord because of the whip range buff
in 1.4.1.2 it was nerfed to give a 31% increase summon damage instead of 43%, & the whip speed was nerfed to be 35% faster instead of 50%
despite the nerfs, it remained the strongest summoner armor set in pre-hm until 1.4.4 when it was nerfed again, this time nerfing the speed from a 35% increase to a 15% increase & crucially nerfing the whip range increase to only be 30% instead of 50%
obsidian armor is now a well balanced set, as you’re no longer forced to pick it over bee armor & it doesn’t make more than half the game a walk in the park
however, i really enjoyed using the obsidian armor in later parts of progression & although the tiki armor has gotten a 30% to its whip range, i think its sad that whip-focused summoner builds aren’t viable anymore
i think giving the tiki armor a buff so it played more similarly to old obsidian armor would be an amazing change, especially considering how many new whips we’re gonna be able to play around with in 1.4.5
it doesn’t need to be as powerful as 1.4.1 obsidian armor but maybe something like an additional +10% summon damage, +25% whip speed, & a 20% increase to the whip range in exchange for 2 minion slots would make tiki armor more fun to use
these stats can be adjusted but i really liked the option of prioritizing whips & wanna be able to do that again

 

[Baconfry]

This can be done while preserving the current version of Tiki armor. Just add an alternate helmet (Tiki Headdress?) with a whip speed set bonus.

 

[Asternove]

This can be done while preserving the current version of Tiki armor. Just add an alternate helmet (Tiki Headdress?) with a whip speed set bonus.

Just use Spooky then.

 

[Old Master Rope God🌳]

Am I the only person that actively dislikes obsidian?
I prefer having the minions over the whip nonsense.

 

[MoLx]

Am I the only person that actively dislikes obsidian?
I prefer having the minions over the whip nonsense.

The obsidian armor used to be relevant pre 1.4.1, but not anymore

 

[MoultonLava]

I always prefer more minions over whip speed
I never use Obsidian over Bee, the minion slots provided give much more damage than the whip speed Obsidian gives.

 

[Asternove]

I always prefer more minions over whip speed
I never use Obsidian over Bee, the minion slots provided give much more damage than the whip speed Obsidian gives.

I use Obsidian, so it's not like it's abhorrently imbalanced toward more minions. I would actually use this if it were added, but many would still run Spooky. Balanced sets like that are always good.

 

[trya]

I say screw it and give Tiki Armour the 1.4.1 obsidian stats *whip stats

 

[Terrabit]

This can be done while preserving the current version of Tiki armor. Just add an alternate helmet (Tiki Headdress?) with a whip speed set bonus.

Here is my version of the second type of helmet for this set

 

[trya]

Here is my version of the second type of helmet for this set

ehhh... the pics are good but not sure on the whole "two helms" thing.

 

[77ForumBone]

Here is my version of the second type of helmet for this set

I really like the way this looks! The bird is super unique and it still looks great!

 

[Asternove]

I really like the design, but as of now I don't think it really needs a second helmet. Unless you rework it from the ground up, that is. TBH I'd like it to be a dedicated hybrid set for post-Plantera with a different helmet for each other non-summoner class.

 

[trya]

I really like the design, but as of now I don't think it really needs a second helmet. Unless you rework it from the ground up, that is. TBH I'd like it to be a dedicated hybrid set for post-Plantera with a different helmet for each other non-summoner class.

I think it stays as is, but reworks the stats to 1.4.1 obsidian whip stats with current minion stats

 

[Asternove]

I think it stays as is, but reworks the stats to 1.4.1 obsidian whip stats with current minion stats

That seems good but I think one less minion would work

 

[trya]

That seems good but I think one less minion would work

lets see... yeah that could work. it'd be for people who use whips primarily. maybe a minion tag bonus?

 

[Asternove]

lets see... yeah that could work. it'd be for people who use whips primarily. maybe a minion tag bonus?

That sounds good. Another solution is adding another minion slot to Spooky but taking some of the damage boosts away; then you can give some of those bonuses to Tiki as well as some whip stats.