A MULTITUDE of early hardmode weapons tested vs Skeletron Prime (1.4.4.7)

[mathbrush]

This is a thread about testing different weapons vs Skeletron Prime. I'm posting it now to get it up here, and plan on improving it (converting more times to seconds, adding color, etc.). means that this weapon requires having defeated a mechanical boss previously.

Setup:

• Armor used: Adamantite (for every but summoner), spider armor, obsidian armor
• Accessories used: fairy wings, amphibian boots, ankh shield, and (all except for summoner) shield of cthulhu
• Melee accessories: berserker glove, warrior emblem, yo-yo bag replacing shield of cthulhu for yoyos
• Ranger accessories: molten quiver/putrid scent, ranger emblem
• Mage accessories: mana cloak, mage emblem
• Summoner accessories: pygmy necklace, berseker glove, summoner emblem

Buffs used: Pad thai, wrath potion, ironskin, regeneration, endurance, magic power potion, archery potion, flask of ichor, sharpened, bewitching table, clairvoyance
Not used: summon potion (I rarely use this in my own playthroughs)

Non-summoners used 2 sanguine bats each.

Top-10 pre-mech weapons (color indicates safety, with green safest, then yellow, then orange):

1. 77 daedalus stormbow, ichor arrows
2. 92 uzi, ichor bullets
3. 95 sanguine bats, firecracker, spider armor
4. 98 onyx blaster, ichor bullets, medium
5. 99 orange zapinator
6. 102 Daedalus stormbow, holy arrows
7. 102 onyx blaster, crystal bullets
8. 104 sanguine bats, firecracker, obsidian armor
9. 112 dart pistol, ichor darts
10. 115 magic dagger

Top-10 post mech weapons:

1. 67 super star shooter
2. 71 megashark, ichor bullets
3. 77 pulse bow, ichor arrows
4. 82 megashark, crystal bullets
5. 83 Phantom phoenix, ichor arrows
6. 85 Flamethrower
7. 85 unholy trident
8. 89 phantom pheonix, holy arrows
9. 91 tome of infinite wisdom (left click)
10. 98 excalibur

Melee:

1. 98 excalibur (died 1)
2. 104 yelets
3. 105 light disc
4. 119 mushroom spear
5. 125 Amarok
6. 127 bananarang
7. 129 gungnir
8. 134 Hel-fire
9. 134 sleepy octopod
10. 134 frostbrand (beam and blade)
11. 138 chain guillotines
12. 142 dao of pow
13. 145 drippler crippler
14. 146 titanium trident (dead once)
15. 150 chik
16. 153 Night's edge (aggressive, staying close to head)
17. 160 shadowflame knife
18. 167 hallowed jousting lance
19. 167 ghastly glaive, (died at last second with 56 hp on skeletron)
20. 172 beam sword (beam and blade)
21. 181 breaker blade
22. 183 night's edge (cautious, keeping distance)
23. 196 bladetongue
24. 198 frostbrand (beam only)
25. 201 titanium sword
26. 222 sergeant united
27. 231 anchor, died once
28. 260 flying knife
29. 284 beam sword (beam only)
30. 288 Ice sickle
31. phasesaber died
32. obsidian swordfish died twice
33. fetid baghnaks, dead
34. slaphand died
35. cutlass died
36. dead KO-cannon, slow
37. jousting lance (died twice)
38. titanium chainsaw (dead

Magic:

1. 85 unholy trident
2. 91 tome of infinite wisdom (left click)
3. 99 orange zapinator
4. 115 magic dagger
5. 116 shadowflame hex doll, (died at same time as boss)
6. 119 rainbow rod
7. 122 sky fracture
8. 130 crystal serpent
9. 131 cursed flames
10. 137 frost staff
11. 138 golden shower
12. 152 flower of frost
13. 153 meteor staff
14. 154 magic harp
15. 164 poison staff
16. 165 blood thorn
17. 213 medusa head
18. 214 crystal vile shard
19. 229 clinger staff, medium
20. 229 laser rifle, safe
21. 238 life drain, medium
22. nimbus rod, really slow, dead
23. ice rod died, ice blocked me. Probably could work, not great for this fight.

Summoner

Spider armor	Cool Whip	Firecracker	Durendal
Abigail	205	201	166
Spider	209	171	151
Pirate	225	>270	167
Blade	137	187	102
Sanguine	115	95	100
Optic	147	154	126

(Abigail with obsidian armor is the last thing I tried, and I was dying a lot, and she was too slow to catch up, so she's not included).

Obsidian armor	Cool Whip	Firecracker	Durendal
Spider	173	176	134
Pirate	235	220	150
Blade	134	196	109
Sanguine	121	104	105
Optic	134	156	123

Ranged:

1. 67 super star shooter
2. 71 megashark, ichor bullets
3. 77 pulse bow, ichor arrows
4. 77 daedalus stormbow, ichor arrows
5. 82 megashark, crystal bullets
6. 83 Phantom phoenix, ichor arrows
7. 85 Flamethrower
8. 89 phantom pheonix, holy arrows
9. 92 uzi, ichor bullets
10. 98 onyx blaster, ichor bullets
11. 100 hallowed repeater, ichor arrows
12. 102 Daedalus stormbow, holy arrows
13. 102 onyx blaster, crystal bullets
14. 112 dart pistol, ichor darts
15. 114 hallowed repeater, holy arrows
16. 115 dart rifle, cursed darts
17. 121 Gatligator, ichor bullets
18. 121 toxikarp
19. 122 shadowflame bow, ichor arrows
20. 123 ice bow, ichor arrows
21. 126 Gatligator, crystal bullets
22. 131 titanium repeater, ichor arrows
23. 131 uzi, endless musket pouch
24. 135 marrow, ichor arrows
25. 136 shotgun, crystal bullets
26. 138 shotgun, ichor bullets
27. 146 titanium repeater, holy arrows
28. 156 dart rifle, crystal darts
29. 157 clockwork assault rifle, ichor bullets
30. 184 dart pistol, crystal darts
31. 218 clockwork assault rifle, crystal bullets

 

[zkksch]

Buffs used: Pad thai, wrath potion, ironskin, regeneration, endurance, magic power potion, hunter potion, sharpened, bewitching table, clairvoyance
Not used: summon potion (I rarely use this in my own playthroughs)

So you used magic power potion but didn't use archery potion, ale/sake, flasks, summon potion? I think you should use all class specific buffs possible.

Melee accessories: berserker glove, warrior emblem, yo-yo bag replacing shield of cthulhu for yoyos

Moon charm may be better than berserker's glove if weapon have autoswing. Especially for weapons that not affected by melee speed (in terms of dps).

Also you can try to use ichor from secondary weapons or flasks, that's what you do in real playthrough, and sometimes it greatly affects the battle. Weapons like guns with crystal bullets or crystal serpent will have much better results with that.

 

[mathbrush]

So you used magic power potion but didn't use archery potion, ale/sake, flasks, summon potion? I think you should use all class specific buffs possible.


Moon charm may be better than berserker's glove if weapon have autoswing. Especially for weapons that not affected by melee speed (in terms of dps).

Also you can try to use ichor from secondary weapons or flasks, that's what you do in real playthrough, and sometimes it greatly affects the battle. Weapons like guns with crystal bullets or crystal serpent will have much better results with that.

Sorry, I forgot; I said 'hunter potion' when I meant archery, and I was using flask of ichor; I'll edit that. And I think you're completely right about applying ichor with another weapon! It would be fun to try.

 

[zkksch]

Sorry, I forgot; I said 'hunter potion' when I meant archery, and I was using flask of ichor; I'll edit that

That's better, but for test purposes you really need to use ale/sake and summoning potion, it's ok if you're not using those in your playthroughs, but it affects cross-class comparison.

Using rage potion also would be good idea, because it will benefit for all classes but summoner, that means it must be taken into account.

And you probably need to try whip stacking (stack multiple whips effects at once) for summoners (if it still a thing, didn't read all patchnotes).