NPCs & Enemies Giving some love to the Frost Legion event

[Kingzly]

The Frost Legion is one of, if not, the most underwhelming and forgotten event in the game, lacking any unique reward and incentive to warrant approaching the event. Of course back in 1.1.1 from its introduction it was considered a solid event made as a way of collecting snow since only 1/3 of worlds would generate a snow biome, and was not meant to be anything more significant - now the biome generates in every world, making the Frost Legion’s main service obsolete completely. Every other Terraria event has gained new content in some way, causing the Frost Legion to be left behind. I think that giving it some attention would bump this event up to a more proper place in the game, without feeling randomly tacked on.


1. The Snow Globe should be craftable

There is no reason at all for this item to be locked behind presents (and the Hand Warmer but that's a discussion for another time), especially when the way to get it is placed during an exclusive limited season. Basically you need to reach wave 15 in the Frost Moon to get 1 in-game day of Christmas, then kill enemies to drop presents, and open those to get the Snow Globe with a 6.67% chance of obtaining. Going by its stats, the Frost Legion is clearly intended to be around Early Hardmode - let’s change that.

Snow Globe Recipe

• 20x Any Wood
• 10x Snow
• 10x Glass
• 3x Souls of Light & Night

Note: This recipe can be changed if it seems too hefty.
This gives it more efficient accessibility and negates the need to wait for December or attempt a Post-Plantera event.

2. Giving the enemies unique drops

All that the enemies currently drop now are snow blocks, which is neat as a renewable source but for an event it definitely needs something more unique. Nothing too crazy, but just giving each of these mobster snowmen their own item would be great and make them more worthwhile. (Concept Sprites by me)

Lil' Pokey - 5% dropped by Mister Stabby

• 26 Damage
• 15 Use Time
• 4 Velocity

A hardmode Gladius-type shortsword that gains increased attack speed and range from 3 to 6 blocks after 2 seconds from constant hits on an enemy.

Tommy Gun - 5% dropped by Snowman Gangsta

• 19 Damage
• 7 Use Time
• 9 Velocity
• 30% chance to save ammo

A gun with a high fire rate and solid damage, and a small chance to inflict frostbite for 4 seconds.
Has a 10 degree angle spread.

Snowstorm Staff - 5% dropped by Snow Balla

• 36 Damage
• 33 Use Time
• 16 Mana
• 12 Velocity

A mage weapon that casts a cyclone which explodes into a barrage of 4 snowballs when it pierces 3 enemies or reaches its max range of 30 blocks.
Each snowball deals 50% of the base damage.


Minor changes to a couple AI (not required, just some neat stuff)
- Snow Balla's attack should have snow blocks be dropped instead of placed, so as to prevent unnecessary clutter.
- Snowman Gangsta should be able to shoot in all directions when stopped in place, but return back to left & right when moving.


And that's pretty much it!

The Frost Legion is definitely a neat concept (I mean c'mon, mafia snowmen), and it would be bit of a pity to see the event not receive anything at all. I personally believe that these examples presented are more "in scope" of the current development than say a complete rework with new enemies, bosses, and re-balancing the entire thing, which doesn't necessarily need that level of content. I have ideas for that sort but I don't think this event needs to be super superfluous; really all it needs is new unique drops and better accessibility to spiff it up more, nothing else.

Let me know what you think. Feel free to give feedback and general thoughts.

Edit: Added stats to the weapons.

 

[AmberTheSeal]

Maybe have the Exploding Snowman re-implemented and redesigned to have a Summoner drop? It could either be an Explosive Snowman Minion or an Exploding Snow Sentry or something.

 

[RandomDuckNerd]

didn't read the stats, i saw the pixel art and i instantly liked it

 

[J Bame]

This "forgotten event with untapped potential" is just a bunch of snowmen, there really isnt anything to get out of expanding it. The other two hardmode invasions have so many issues that its better to improve on those than waste time on forgotten content

Basically you need to reach wave 15 in the Frost Moon to get 1 in-game day of Christmas, then kill enemies to drop presents, and open those to get the Snow Globe with a 6.67% chance of dropping. The Frost Legion is clearly intended to be fought in Early Hardmode going by its stats - lets change that.

This was just meant to allow you to get Christmas/Hallowing items without changing the date on your computer, the few of them that arent vanity are awful weapons in preHardmode, this obviously wasnt meant to add this stuff to progression

 

[Big Sammich]

I think J Bame is right that expanding on this event is kind of a lost cause... but I don't agree that we shouldn't try. We could just accept that the event isn't relevant and add something fun anyway. I'd love a Tommy Gun.

 

[FalloutGuy645]

Goblin invasion is just a bunch of goblins. Pirate invasion is just a bunch of pirates. Lol, nah. Even though they have their issues they are still far more enticing than the frost legion, why can’t the latter just feel more fun to fight against?

I feel like there are several different ways to make this event feel more interesting. Something the other invasions have that the frost legion doesn’t is a variety of enemies. Since the frost legion is clearly inspired off of early to mid 20th century gangster parodies, why not play off of that more?

 

[J Bame]

Goblin invasion is just a bunch of goblins. Pirate invasion is just a bunch of pirates. Lol, nah. Even though they have their issues they are still far more enticing than the frost legion, why can’t the latter just feel more fun to fight against?

I feel like there are several different ways to make this event feel more interesting. Something the other invasions have that the frost legion doesn’t is a variety of enemies. Since the frost legion is clearly inspired off of early to mid 20th century gangster parodies, why not play off of that more?

okay so listen, this is the kind of argument that annoys me because you can say the same thing about everything. Ocram, the other version exclusive bosses, Obsidian Horseshoe, one of those guys that post daily ideas with exactly 10 minutes of thought behind each one, everything in theory has "potential" that you can explore. That doesnt mean you have to explore it.

Frost Legion was a rushed event that eventually everyone forgot about. You know what people don't forget about? That Pirate Invasions and Martian Madness don't feel fair to fight against. That there are biomes that dont have enough content to feel fleshed out. That Cobalt and Mythril gear is a waste of time when you realize you could just mine more adamantite/titanium instead. Those are things that need attention.

Once you look past "oh, it's so old and forgotten" you realize that this event consists of 3 barebones enemies. There is nothing to salvage here. Yes, you can sit down one day and probably make Frost Legion 10 times more fleshed out, possibly the most fun event in the game. You can also just fix other things in this game that we all actually care about. Or really, just add a new invasion altogether, because that's effectively what you'd be doing if you decided to fix Frost Legion.

The only reason it hasn't been outright removed from the game is that you'd get more people complaining that it's gone than there are people who would've wanted it to be removed.

 

[The Mysterious Creature]

While I wouldn’t mind a frost legion upgrade, I feel like people think of the frost legion in the wrong way. The way I see it, there doesn’t have to be a reason to fight the frost legion, or anything that makes it relevant. It’s just a funny thing the devs put in to troll people who shake a snow globe. It’s a joke event. I think it fills that role fine enough the way it is. It doesn’t have to be made into a fully fledged invasion. I like that this suggestion keeps it pretty simple for that reason. Random goofy weapon drops wouldn’t be a bad addition. Expanding the frost legion wouldn’t be a bad thing. Though, it’s not really a necessity to change the frost legion at all the way I see it.

 

[FalloutGuy645]

okay so listen, this is the kind of argument that annoys me because you can say the same thing about everything. Ocram, the other version exclusive bosses, Obsidian Horseshoe, one of those guys that post daily ideas with exactly 10 minutes of thought behind each one, everything in theory has "potential" that you can explore. That doesnt mean you have to explore it.

Frost Legion was a rushed event that eventually everyone forgot about. You know what people don't forget about? That Pirate Invasions and Martian Madness don't feel fair to fight against. That there are biomes that dont have enough content to feel fleshed out. That Cobalt and Mythril gear is a waste of time when you realize you could just mine more adamantite/titanium instead. Those are things that need attention.

Once you look past "oh, it's so old and forgotten" you realize that this event consists of 3 barebones enemies. There is nothing to salvage here. Yes, you can sit down one day and probably make Frost Legion 10 times more fleshed out, possibly the most fun event in the game. You can also just fix other things in this game that we all actually care about. Or really, just add a new invasion altogether, because that's effectively what you'd be doing if you decided to fix Frost Legion.

The only reason it hasn't been outright removed from the game is that you'd get more people complaining that it's gone than there are people who would've wanted it to be removed.

Okay, sure, but even dirt can be polished. This isn’t Ocram, this is an event that is amongst the few and an original idea in terms of enemies. Considering how few of these events we even have and how original it is and it would appear more people want the frost legion to be expanded on. Yes, I do believe it is at least worthy of looking into.

 

[MrD108]

A very cool idea for drops, and their graphics are very nice. The Tommy Gun would be fun if it was constantly visible when equipping.
Additionally, Mister Stabby and Snow Balla could drop a Red Scarf as a vanity item.

The recipe for creating a Snow Globe is a good idea, especially since all Snowmen (and Santa) are needed to complete the bestiary.

I'm definitely in favor of reworking the landing mechanics for the snowballs thrown by the Snow Balla, as having to hammer the blocks again is annoying.

Snowman Gangsta could also stand in one place at random times like Swamp Thing, shoot several times in both directions and run towards the player again. It would look like shootings in old gangster movies.

Additionally, I would consider reintroducing the Exploding Snowman as an enemy that works similarly to the Chattering Teeth Bomb. He could drop the Snowman Vanity Set in three pieces, as he is the most ordinary snowman in appearance.

Each member of the Snowman Gang could additionally drop a new food, a snow-covered carrot, which gives Well Fed for 24 minutes (like December 24).

 

[JakiShen]

It would be wonderful if we could get a snow globe from Christmas presents and use it to make it snow.

 

[Borgor]

Yes. would be pretty cool.

 

[Timey-Whimy]

Tall snowman: four snowballs tall, acts like a zombie until killed

when killed turns into snowman head, witch act like an angry tumbler

in for the worthy also splits into snowball boulders, which are white colored boulders

 

[MrD108]

Snowman Boulder!

 

[Żuczku]

The Frost Legion is one of, if not, the most underwhelming and forgotten event in the game, lacking any unique reward and incentive to warrant approaching the event. Of course back in 1.1.1 from its introduction it was considered a solid event made as a way of collecting snow since only 1/3 of worlds would generate a snow biome, and was not meant to be anything more significant - now the biome generates in every world, making the Frost Legion’s main service obsolete completely. Every other Terraria event has gained new content in some way, causing the Frost Legion to be left behind. I think that giving it some attention would bump this event up to a more proper place in the game, without feeling randomly tacked on.


1. The Snow Globe should be craftable

There is no reason at all for this item to be locked behind presents (and the Hand Warmer but that's a discussion for another time), especially when the way to get it is placed during an exclusive limited season. Basically you need to reach wave 15 in the Frost Moon to get 1 in-game day of Christmas, then kill enemies to drop presents, and open those to get the Snow Globe with a 6.67% chance of obtaining. Going by its stats, the Frost Legion is clearly intended to be around Early Hardmode - let’s change that.

View attachment 471381Snow Globe Recipe

• 20x Any Wood
• 10x Snow
• 10x Glass
• 3x Souls of Light & Night

Note: This recipe can be changed if it seems too hefty.
This gives it more efficient accessibility and negates the need to wait for December or attempt a Post-Plantera event.

2. Giving the enemies unique drops

All that the enemies currently drop now are snow blocks, which is neat as a renewable source but for an event it definitely needs something more unique. Nothing too crazy, but just giving each of these mobster snowmen their own item would be great and make them more worthwhile. (Concept Sprites by me)


View attachment 471384Lil' Pokey - 5% dropped by Mister Stabby

• 26 Damage
• 15 Use Time
• 4 Velocity

A hardmode Gladius-type shortsword that gains increased attack speed and range from 3 to 6 blocks after 2 seconds from constant hits on an enemy.


View attachment 471390 Tommy Gun - 5% dropped by Snowman Gangsta

• 19 Damage
• 7 Use Time
• 9 Velocity
• 30% chance to save ammo

A gun with a high fire rate and solid damage, and a small chance to inflict frostbite for 4 seconds.
Has a 10 degree angle spread.


View attachment 471389Snowstorm Staff - 5% dropped by Snow Balla

• 36 Damage
• 33 Use Time
• 16 Mana
• 12 Velocity

A mage weapon that casts a cyclone which explodes into a barrage of 4 snowballs when it pierces 3 enemies or reaches its max range of 30 blocks.
Each snowball deals 50% of the base damage.


Minor changes to a couple AI (not required, just some neat stuff)
- Snow Balla's attack should have snow blocks be dropped instead of placed, so as to prevent unnecessary clutter.
- Snowman Gangsta should be able to shoot in all directions when stopped in place, but return back to left & right when moving.


And that's pretty much it!

The Frost Legion is definitely a neat concept (I mean c'mon, mafia snowmen), and it would be bit of a pity to see the event not receive anything at all. I personally believe that these examples presented are more "in scope" of the current development than say a complete rework with new enemies, bosses, and re-balancing the entire thing, which doesn't necessarily need that level of content. I have ideas for that sort but I don't think this event needs to be super superfluous; really all it needs is new unique drops and better accessibility to spiff it up more, nothing else.

Let me know what you think. Feel free to give feedback and general thoughts.

Edit: Added stats to the weapons.

where summoner weapon?

 

[Shilaila]

The clothier sells some unique gangsta hats after the event

 

[Żuczku]

The clothier sells some unique gangsta hats after the event

no given about clothier