Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
Well, not all of them, but yes.
Something like The Twins, where they attack separately, or something where they look separate but are treated like one entity?
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Ideas for more Celestial Pillars
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Greenteacake
Terrarian
They attack like The Twins.
Also can you please give me a list of the Pillars you will Include, (If you don't mind)
Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
I will finish typing up the list as soon as I can. The list will (like the first post) include an explanation of what each pillar is based on (or at least, my interpretation of it).
Greenteacake
Terrarian
Okay then!
Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
Descriptions are as follows:
Description of the celestial body the pillar is based on (or at least, my interpretation).
Our sun is a white, average-sized, middle-aged star that is unique only because it does not have a companion and has a lot of junk surrounding it. Like a League of Legends player! (rimshot) Like most stars, the sun is a sphere of really hot plasma, and it produces energy mostly by turning hydrogen into helium using nuclear fusion. Even though humanity has always thought of the sun as being yellow or orange, it's actually white, making the sun more like an office building's fluorescent lighting than fire. Ah forget this, the real sun is boring. The sun as our forefathers saw it is a gleaming, flaming place of splendid heat and glory, where Ra sits upon his throne of fire, Khepri defies death each dawn, Apollo plays his lyre melodically for all to enjoy, Amaterasu inspires a legacy of emperors, Tonatiuh captures the lifeforce offered in human sacrifices, and the secret to turning lead to gold is just within reach. Laudato Solis!
Mercury is a sterile place, with the almost complete lack of an atmosphere causing temperatures to fluctuate from −173°C (−280°F) at night to 427°C (800°F). On Mercury, all water freezes solid in an instant in the shade, and even metal begins to melt in the sun. There is no rest from these infernal temperatures, no cooling breeze; there is hardly any air at all. Due to billions of years of geological inactivity, the surface closely resembles that of the moon, featuring a multitude of impact craters from meteor showers, volcanoes that have lied dead for billions of years, and endless, rolling plains. Mercury is a solid mass of rock, with a huge metal core, which never strays far from the sun. Mercury is named after the Roman messenger of the gods, who was believed to be an embodiment of speed and athleticism (among other things).
A gas giant is a huge planet made of gas, like Neptune or Jupiter. This pillar is, more specifically a rogue planet with a bottomless ocean. A rogue planet is a planet that orbits the galaxy's center directly, orphaned from its solar system. Even though they don't have stars to keep them warm, they can still have liquid water oceans if their atmospheres are thick enough, thanks to geothermal energy. The core of a gas giant is a strange type of "hot ice" that is hot enough to boil but stays solid because of the immense pressure of the weight of the material above it. These planets could harbor a multitude of unimaginably strange aquatic life, which would be accustomed to the pull of much stronger gravity.
When a star of an extremely large size finally collapses, it creates an incredibly huge explosion called a supernova, releasing all the elements that were formed within it during fusion, and the force of the detonation also continues fusion, producing elements that are only possible to make in these special conditions. What is left is a cloud of glittering metals and other elements, drifting off into the emptiness of space, where they will someday amass again, creating a new solar system. From the new solar system will form new planets and moons, perhaps even new life. The world at times might seem large and uncaring, but remember that we are all made of stardust.
A pulsar is a white dwarf or neutron star that emits beams of radiation from its poles and spins incredibly fast. They are so dense that an entire ton of the matter that one of these is made of would be the size of a thimble. They're called pulsars because, when observed from Earth, they seem to "pulse", becoming seemingly brighter when their rapid rotation has either end of the beam pointed towards us, like a lighthouse. There is a special type of pulsar called a magnetar that has a magnetic field so strong that it could suck the iron out of your blood. When first discovered, the pulsing phenomenon was nicknamed LGM, "little green men", because it seemed as though extraterrestrials were trying to communicate.
A quasar is an active galactic nucleus that is overwhelmingly bright. It consists of a supermassive black hole at the center of a galaxy, like the one I just mentioned, and the large disc of gas that it's constantly devouring. Quasars are some of the most energetic objects in the known universe, capable of emitting up to a thousand times as much electromagnetic energy (from x-rays to gamma-rays) as the entire Milky Way galaxy, which contains hundreds of billions of stars. Since they are a type of black hole, the functioning part of the quasar (the area within the black hole's event horizon, which nothing can escape, not even light) is itself invisible. The huge amount of energy is actually produced by the friction of material that is about to be devoured. These fearsome behemoths are known only by the deaths of their victims.
A nova (commonly confused with a supernova) is an interaction between two stars that are close together that makes a huge flash of light that can persist for multiple months. It usually happens with two stars that orbit each other, one of which is a white dwarf and the other of which isn't, when the white dwarf absorbs a ton of the other star's gas, making a dense but thin atmosphere. The atmosphere heats up a ton because white dwarves are extremely hot, and it eventually gets so hot it explodes like a nuclear bomb (more specifically, it explodes because of runaway hydrogen fusion). The energy of this huge explosion shoots the flaming gas out into space, giving the appearance of a new star having appeared out of nowhere, several times brighter than the two stars combined.
Terraria is kind of vague on what exactly this is supposed to be but it features bright spirals, so I'm going to assume it's a white hole. A white hole is the theoretical opposite of a black hole, believed to exist simply because all that matter has to go somewhere, even though none have ever been proven to exist (though GRB 060614 has been hypothesized to have been one). Like any other mass, white holes attract matter which forms a disk as it spirals inwards, but unlike other mass, they have an event horizon that is impossible to enter from the outside.
A tesseract is to a cube as a cube is to a square. Since we occupy a three-dimensional space, we can fold a net of 2D squares into a 3D cube. If we could move through the fourth dimension, we could fold a net of 3D cubes into a 4D tesseract. From the point of view of a three-dimensional being navigating the inside of a tesseract, space would seem to loop in on itself. Looking far enough behind your back, you could see yourself turning around to look at yourself turning around to look at yourself turning around to look at yourself. You could run towards the horizon, only to see it get further and further away, but also creeping up behind you.
"Shooting star" is a misnomer. What we call "shooting stars" are actually meteors burning up in our atmosphere, not stars, and meteors are nothing new to Terraria. A real "shooting" star would be a hypervelocity star. Hypervelocity stars hurtle through space at around 1,000m/s (2,000,000 mph), and are stars that were part of a binary system (that is, a pair of stars) until the supermassive black hole at the center of a galaxy consumed one, ejecting the other into the far reaches of space. Thanks to the sacrifice of their life-long partners, these stars escaped death and gained the speed to travel to other galaxies.
A nebula is a cloud of gas and dust in space. In relatively young galaxies, the space in between stars is permeated by a very thin medium of gas and dust. In areas very far away from the gravitational influence of stars, the gas and dust clumps together, becoming a sort of cloud called a nebula. Within parts these nebulas, the gas gets thick enough to start swirling and clumping together even more, until it makes a clump so dense and heavy that it ignites and starts fusing hydrogen to make helium, becoming a new star. Nebulas are dark and block the stars behind them from our view, but the stars forming within them can cause parts of the nebulas surrounding them to glow. Nebulas where a lot of stars are forming are sometimes called "stellar nurseries".
A comet is a type of asteroid that originates from the far reaches of the solar system, further away than Neptune. Comets are made of rock and ice, with pockets of frozen gas, and when they get close enough to the sun, its heat melts the gas and ice, releasing the gas along with a large amount of dust. The gas and ice form two visible tails as they stream out of the comet, which can sometimes be visible from Earth.
This is another vague one. My interpretation of it is that it's a cluster of stars, more specifically, The Pleiades Star Cluster. The Pleiades Star Cluster is one of the brightest objects in our sky. The cluster is a group of stars containing over a thousand members, fourteen of which can be seen with the naked eye. The name is Greek in origin, and is thought by some to come from peleiades, meaning "flock of doves". It's as if the stars are a community, living together in harmony.
Ordinary stars operate by fusing hydrogen atoms into helium. When a large enough star has run out of hydrogen at its core, it starts fusing hydrogen in a thick shell around the core, which is now helium. This makes the core larger and larger, until it reaches a point where it begins to heat and shrink, while the outer layers expand and cool making the star look red and absolutely enormous (even for a star). The star is now going a few steps further than it used to, fusing helium into carbon and oxygen, carbon into neon, and lastly, neon into iron. Stars cannot produce enough energy to fuse iron, not even these behemoths. After using up all their neon, they collapse in on themselves, now that the force of their produced energy is no longer there to counteract the force of their own gravity. After reaching a very small size, the collapse violently rebounds in an explosion called a supernova.
- Noun / Adjective pillar (original underlined)
- Name of class
- Damage type
- Mod that adds class
Description of the celestial body the pillar is based on (or at least, my interpretation).
- Sun / Solar pillar
- Warrior
- Melee
- Vanilla
Our sun is a white, average-sized, middle-aged star that is unique only because it does not have a companion and has a lot of junk surrounding it. Like a League of Legends player! (rimshot) Like most stars, the sun is a sphere of really hot plasma, and it produces energy mostly by turning hydrogen into helium using nuclear fusion. Even though humanity has always thought of the sun as being yellow or orange, it's actually white, making the sun more like an office building's fluorescent lighting than fire. Ah forget this, the real sun is boring. The sun as our forefathers saw it is a gleaming, flaming place of splendid heat and glory, where Ra sits upon his throne of fire, Khepri defies death each dawn, Apollo plays his lyre melodically for all to enjoy, Amaterasu inspires a legacy of emperors, Tonatiuh captures the lifeforce offered in human sacrifices, and the secret to turning lead to gold is just within reach. Laudato Solis!
- Mercury / Mercurial pillar
- Acrobat
- Acrobatic
- Elasidel
Mercury is a sterile place, with the almost complete lack of an atmosphere causing temperatures to fluctuate from −173°C (−280°F) at night to 427°C (800°F). On Mercury, all water freezes solid in an instant in the shade, and even metal begins to melt in the sun. There is no rest from these infernal temperatures, no cooling breeze; there is hardly any air at all. Due to billions of years of geological inactivity, the surface closely resembles that of the moon, featuring a multitude of impact craters from meteor showers, volcanoes that have lied dead for billions of years, and endless, rolling plains. Mercury is a solid mass of rock, with a huge metal core, which never strays far from the sun. Mercury is named after the Roman messenger of the gods, who was believed to be an embodiment of speed and athleticism (among other things).
- Gas Giant / Gaseous pillar
- Fisherman (?)
- Fishing
- BattleRods
A gas giant is a huge planet made of gas, like Neptune or Jupiter. This pillar is, more specifically a rogue planet with a bottomless ocean. A rogue planet is a planet that orbits the galaxy's center directly, orphaned from its solar system. Even though they don't have stars to keep them warm, they can still have liquid water oceans if their atmospheres are thick enough, thanks to geothermal energy. The core of a gas giant is a strange type of "hot ice" that is hot enough to boil but stays solid because of the immense pressure of the weight of the material above it. These planets could harbor a multitude of unimaginably strange aquatic life, which would be accustomed to the pull of much stronger gravity.
- Stardust / Magellanic pillar
- Summoner
- Summon
- Vanilla
When a star of an extremely large size finally collapses, it creates an incredibly huge explosion called a supernova, releasing all the elements that were formed within it during fusion, and the force of the detonation also continues fusion, producing elements that are only possible to make in these special conditions. What is left is a cloud of glittering metals and other elements, drifting off into the emptiness of space, where they will someday amass again, creating a new solar system. From the new solar system will form new planets and moons, perhaps even new life. The world at times might seem large and uncaring, but remember that we are all made of stardust.
- Pulsar / Pulsating pillar
- Defender
- Sentry
- ExpandedSentries
A pulsar is a white dwarf or neutron star that emits beams of radiation from its poles and spins incredibly fast. They are so dense that an entire ton of the matter that one of these is made of would be the size of a thimble. They're called pulsars because, when observed from Earth, they seem to "pulse", becoming seemingly brighter when their rapid rotation has either end of the beam pointed towards us, like a lighthouse. There is a special type of pulsar called a magnetar that has a magnetic field so strong that it could suck the iron out of your blood. When first discovered, the pulsing phenomenon was nicknamed LGM, "little green men", because it seemed as though extraterrestrials were trying to communicate.
- Quasar / Quasaric pillar
- Ninja
- Throwing
- Shadows of Abaddon
A quasar is an active galactic nucleus that is overwhelmingly bright. It consists of a supermassive black hole at the center of a galaxy, like the one I just mentioned, and the large disc of gas that it's constantly devouring. Quasars are some of the most energetic objects in the known universe, capable of emitting up to a thousand times as much electromagnetic energy (from x-rays to gamma-rays) as the entire Milky Way galaxy, which contains hundreds of billions of stars. Since they are a type of black hole, the functioning part of the quasar (the area within the black hole's event horizon, which nothing can escape, not even light) is itself invisible. The huge amount of energy is actually produced by the friction of material that is about to be devoured. These fearsome behemoths are known only by the deaths of their victims.
- Nova / Explosive pillar
- Alchemist
- Alchemic
- Tremor
A nova (commonly confused with a supernova) is an interaction between two stars that are close together that makes a huge flash of light that can persist for multiple months. It usually happens with two stars that orbit each other, one of which is a white dwarf and the other of which isn't, when the white dwarf absorbs a ton of the other star's gas, making a dense but thin atmosphere. The atmosphere heats up a ton because white dwarves are extremely hot, and it eventually gets so hot it explodes like a nuclear bomb (more specifically, it explodes because of runaway hydrogen fusion). The energy of this huge explosion shoots the flaming gas out into space, giving the appearance of a new star having appeared out of nowhere, several times brighter than the two stars combined.
- Vortex / Vortical pillar
- Ranger
- Ranged
- Vanilla
Terraria is kind of vague on what exactly this is supposed to be but it features bright spirals, so I'm going to assume it's a white hole. A white hole is the theoretical opposite of a black hole, believed to exist simply because all that matter has to go somewhere, even though none have ever been proven to exist (though GRB 060614 has been hypothesized to have been one). Like any other mass, white holes attract matter which forms a disk as it spirals inwards, but unlike other mass, they have an event horizon that is impossible to enter from the outside.
- Tesseract / Extradimensional pillar
- Illusionist
- Illusory
- Elasidel
A tesseract is to a cube as a cube is to a square. Since we occupy a three-dimensional space, we can fold a net of 2D squares into a 3D cube. If we could move through the fourth dimension, we could fold a net of 3D cubes into a 4D tesseract. From the point of view of a three-dimensional being navigating the inside of a tesseract, space would seem to loop in on itself. Looking far enough behind your back, you could see yourself turning around to look at yourself turning around to look at yourself turning around to look at yourself. You could run towards the horizon, only to see it get further and further away, but also creeping up behind you.
- Shooting Star / Hypersonic pillar
- Bard
- Symphonic
- Thorium
"Shooting star" is a misnomer. What we call "shooting stars" are actually meteors burning up in our atmosphere, not stars, and meteors are nothing new to Terraria. A real "shooting" star would be a hypervelocity star. Hypervelocity stars hurtle through space at around 1,000m/s (2,000,000 mph), and are stars that were part of a binary system (that is, a pair of stars) until the supermassive black hole at the center of a galaxy consumed one, ejecting the other into the far reaches of space. Thanks to the sacrifice of their life-long partners, these stars escaped death and gained the speed to travel to other galaxies.
- Nebula / Nebulous pillar
- Sorcerer
- Magic
- Vanilla
A nebula is a cloud of gas and dust in space. In relatively young galaxies, the space in between stars is permeated by a very thin medium of gas and dust. In areas very far away from the gravitational influence of stars, the gas and dust clumps together, becoming a sort of cloud called a nebula. Within parts these nebulas, the gas gets thick enough to start swirling and clumping together even more, until it makes a clump so dense and heavy that it ignites and starts fusing hydrogen to make helium, becoming a new star. Nebulas are dark and block the stars behind them from our view, but the stars forming within them can cause parts of the nebulas surrounding them to glow. Nebulas where a lot of stars are forming are sometimes called "stellar nurseries".
- Comet / Cometary pillar
- Artist
- Artistic
- Elasidel
A comet is a type of asteroid that originates from the far reaches of the solar system, further away than Neptune. Comets are made of rock and ice, with pockets of frozen gas, and when they get close enough to the sun, its heat melts the gas and ice, releasing the gas along with a large amount of dust. The gas and ice form two visible tails as they stream out of the comet, which can sometimes be visible from Earth.
- Heaven / Celestial pillar
- Healer
- Radiant
- Thorium
This is another vague one. My interpretation of it is that it's a cluster of stars, more specifically, The Pleiades Star Cluster. The Pleiades Star Cluster is one of the brightest objects in our sky. The cluster is a group of stars containing over a thousand members, fourteen of which can be seen with the naked eye. The name is Greek in origin, and is thought by some to come from peleiades, meaning "flock of doves". It's as if the stars are a community, living together in harmony.
- Fusion / Fusional pillar
- Hermeticist
- Hermetic
- Elasidel
Ordinary stars operate by fusing hydrogen atoms into helium. When a large enough star has run out of hydrogen at its core, it starts fusing hydrogen in a thick shell around the core, which is now helium. This makes the core larger and larger, until it reaches a point where it begins to heat and shrink, while the outer layers expand and cool making the star look red and absolutely enormous (even for a star). The star is now going a few steps further than it used to, fusing helium into carbon and oxygen, carbon into neon, and lastly, neon into iron. Stars cannot produce enough energy to fuse iron, not even these behemoths. After using up all their neon, they collapse in on themselves, now that the force of their produced energy is no longer there to counteract the force of their own gravity. After reaching a very small size, the collapse violently rebounds in an explosion called a supernova.
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LadyLone
Steampunker
I count 14 pillars, up from 12, with the two new ones based on Greenteacake's suggestions. I like how everything is detailed out and even has a fragment sprite to go with them. What is the Acrobat class like? It's the only one I can't find anything about in this thread unless I didn't look hard enough. Is it something to do with jumping on top of enemies like in many platform games?
SirOrnstein
Skeletron Prime
Is there not a pillar for the artist class? I was looking for Comet but couldn’t see it
Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
The acrobat class takes the yoyos out of melee and expands on them, similarly to Expanded Sentries taking the sentries out of summoning. The acrobat class's yoyos would/will include yoyos that are used to do techniques (other than "sleeping", which is when the yoyo is kept spinning at the end of its uncoiled string and is how Terraria yoyos are used normally) such as looping (where the yoyo is kept in constant revolution around the hand), off-string (where the yoyo is not tied directly to the string, allowing the yoyo to be thrown from the string and then caught on the string again) or freehand (where the yoyo's string ends in a counterweight instead of being tied to the user's hand, allowing the counterweight to be thrown from hand to hand). The acrobat class also features some things that are similar to yoyos, such as diabolos (which is like a combination of yoyo and juggling, and involves the manipulation of two sticks).
Third from the bottom; it's the grape-purple one. It's easy to miss, since it has the shortest explanation.
Greenteacake
Terrarian
Wow, Never Expected That!
But.... I have a few things to say.
First Off,
The Vortex I Think There Refering Too Is A Wormhole/BlackHole And Also A White Hole, Since The Vortex Pillar Is Basically Transporting Things To The Player.
And Also I Was A Bit Shocked When You Used Fusion Instead Of A Black Hole And White Hole, If you don't mind me saying this, I kind've made me upset for a few seconds, I do not know why.
Alsooo Could you include The Satellite Pillar?
Also A Side Note, What Program Do You Use To Make Those Sprites? I Would Love To Help You, With The Sprites!
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Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
So then, the vanilla Vortex pillar is the same as your original idea for the Hermetic class? I don't think there's much black hole action going on with the Vortex pillar, since it seems like it's basically transporting things to you, but not away from you.
I was pretty reluctant to change it, myself, but... As I was trying to work out the details and implementation of a duality-themed pillar, it occured to me that space doesn't really have anything where opposites meet, other than a tidally-locked planet (which is a planet where only one side ever faces the sun, resulting in one side of the planet being really hot and the other one being really cold). Hermeticism is based on three main parts: alchemy, astrology, and theurgy. Alchemy already has a class (though Tremor's interpretation is closer to modern chemistry than Hermeticism's alchemy), so we can't really use it by name. Hermetic alchemy mostly revolves around the processes of distillation and fermentation, which are considered alchemical representations of creation and destruction, or birth and death. Astrology would be somewhat difficult to implement as a weapon, so it would likely work best as a theme for buffs. Hermetic astrology is the belief that, while they don't directly dictate people's actions, the stars and planets have influences on the Earth which can be predicted with relative reliability, like a weather forecast. Lastly, hermetic theurgy says that there are two types of magic: Theurgy, a divine magic that relies on an alliance with divine spirits, and Goëtia, a black magic that relies on an alliance with evil spirits. These last two are what would be closest to the original hexer and supporter concepts.
The disc class will be present as part of the acrobat class, as "looping" yoyos. Also, Mercury is very similar in appearance to a moon.
Piskel. It's really useful once you get the hang of it. I'll PM you the full color palettes of each pillar, if you want.
Greenteacake
Terrarian
Oh okay then, the moon part is understandable, and also the Black And White Hole Concept, And Thank You For Saying What Program You Use, Also I would like for you to PM me!
Greenteacake
Terrarian
Also, it's a bit unfair just to have Mercury Pillar, But Not Include The Other ones, but!
Can we add the other planets as pillar and make them represent sub classes?
Can we add the other planets as pillar and make them represent sub classes?
Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
Having some kind of mixed subclasses pillar sounds interesting, but what exactly would be made with the fragments from it? Global accessories? "True damage" weapons, like Thorium's? Fragments of other pillars?
Greenteacake
Terrarian
Oh sorry for the confusion! I mean Subclasses by Classes that are in a category of another class, so like for example, The Spearer Lands In Melee And The Spearer Could Be Neptune Or Something.
Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
Wait, do you mean adding another 8 pillars, one for each planet? If you do, that's kind of insane, because that would bring the total to twenty-two pillars.
LadyLone
Steampunker
I would suggest avoiding sub class pillars because that can easily add up to a lot more pillars. Going by whole classes, since five (including the Nova pillar) are already made, that's nine pillars to make. I suppose the next step is to figure out the enemies to go with them. For the Gaseous pillar, would it be fish like enemies or gas related? Maybe the Pulsating pillar could be non-moving enemies or turrets.
Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
We have had a couple of great enemy concepts in this thread already, so I'd say we're on the right track.
Really creative ideas here, though they seem like they would probably be hard to program (I'm no expert, though).It would be cool if Gas Pillar created a giant sphere of water around itself. Or atleast some field that acts like liquid (so you need swim in it and slowly loosing air)
btw, I suggest that Gas Pillar monters should be called "Gigas", cuz it have both "Giant" and "Gas".
For example: "Gigas Kraken"
This monster shoots high dmg projectiles. While in "water" it has insane life regeneration, but actually looses hp outside of water. It has no knockback immunity.
How to beat it?
1) Attack kraken with a lot of burst dmg, so you kill it before it regens.
2) Knockback it out of water.
3) Using battlerods (fisherman class) pull it out of water!
I'll be posting my own ideas for enemies for the pillars sometime tomorrow (possibly with some sprites).
Technotoad64
Skeletron Prime
- Teal and silver color scheme.
- The background has a silver white dwarf star with rotating teal energy beams at its poles.
- The sentry-themed Celestial Tower
- Slow, mostly immobile minions that mostly attack with projectile attacks.
- Drops Pulsar Fragments.
- Attacks the player directly by deploying Pulsar Airmines.
- Pulsar Airmines are deployed in a spread by the pillar.
- Deal large amounts of contact damage, inflicting the "Magnetized" debuff.
- Magnetized is a combination of "Electrified" and "Slow"
- Tooltip: "The iron is being pulled from your blood."
- Icon:
- Science connection (warning: blood). Magnetar pulsars are much, much stronger than the magnets used in the video.
- Fighter AI
- Sometimes deploys Pulsar Constructions
- Unintentionally slightly resembles a monkey.
- Rises out of the ground, then floats a few blocks above the ground.
- Fires Pulsar Pearls at the player.
- Pulsar Pearls home in on the player, but can't go through blocks.
That's about all the ideas I have for the time being. What does everyone else have?
_tenfictions_
Official Terrarian
I had I idea for a Transformation class, witch (correct my grammar) uses the enemy's essence to transform into the respective enemy. The lunar pillar will be called Metamorphism Pillar, while the fragments are called Metamorph Fragment, the pillar will replace the 3rd pillar (the first pillar to the right) and spawn it's respective enemies you have to deal with.
"You feel like another being..."
The message after killing the pillar
"You feel like another being..."
The message after killing the pillar
_tenfictions_
Official Terrarian
Why is no one replying