652Graystripe
Plantera
652Graystripe said:Other than that, I've decided to add an icon to the thread for "point of contention" that marks weapons that are up for change.
It looks like this.
To get it applied to an item - well, that's easy. You just have to say "I think X should be in Y tier", and it'll get applied, simple as that. If more people (e.g. one other person or more) back you up - I count as "more people" as well - I'll move it over.
Hope this makes the thread easier to navigate.
As my last guide focused on the first half of Hardmode, my second deals with the second half - Plantera through Moon Lord. I'll copy-paste the instructions in here.
Here's the links to the others.
Pre-Hard Mode
Early to Mid-Hard Mode
It's a fact: some weapons are better than others. This thread is intended as a community-input encyclopedia on what weapons are the best and worth getting, pretty decent and useful, or not so useful at all. This also includes the "piece of crap" category, also known as the Unholy Trident.
When commenting as to why you think a weapon should be moved up or down, be sure you formulate a logical argument. "I like this weapon" or "I did something cool with this weapon" doesn't count. What we like most here are factual, stat-backed-up responses that can be done by anyone - just play around with the weapon and you'll see.
The following variables are taken into consideration:
-How much damage does the weapon do?
-Is it a single- or multi-target weapon?
-How useful is it in a variety of scenarios?
-Is it extremely useful in a single scenario?
-Is it difficult to get ammo or mana to sustain it?
-How hard is it to obtain?
-Any other factors that determine its usefulness, such as accuracy?
The thread covers all weapons that are available between Plantera's defeat and the Moon Lord's defeat. Duke Fishron is counted in here as well due to his balance, while dev yoyos are not included.
It's worth noting that not all weapons are judged against each other - because of the high degree of progression in late Hard Mode, it'd be completely unfair to judge the Last Prism against the Inferno Fork, for example. They are judged against credible threats at their tier - for example, the Inferno Fork would be judged against the Hardmode Dungeon, Golem, etc. while the Last Prism would be matched against the Moon Lord and possibly pillar events.
If you disagree with this thread, feel free to tell me. It's only starting with my opinions; it will be changed according to that of the community. I am only the poster for something that I hope will become much larger. Thanks.
Note that, with the 1.4 update, this list has been shaken up quite a bit! An asterisk (*) denotes weapons that are either new or significantly modified, and as such require reevaluation. I will also include a section for weapons that I don't feel able to rank, since I haven't played as much as I would like since the update.
S Rank
The best of the best - weapons that are undisputably excellent and work well in almost all situations.
A Rank
Perhaps not the best; they're held back by minor flaws that can usually be offset. They can be used well in almost all situations.
A+
A
A-
B Rank
Weapons here are sometimes more trouble than they're worth to obtain; they also have notable flaws that prevent their use in a great variety of situations.
B+
B
B-
C Rank
These weapons are, overall, poor; their effectiveness is severely limited or invisible.
C+
C
C-
D Rank
Reserved exclusively for weapons that are pretty much absolutely useless and should never be a first, second or even third pick.
Need ranking
Due to my inability to test everything so far, these weapons are currently unranked. Community input is crucial in helping determine their placements!
29/9/16 - Solar Eruption up to S, Pygmy Staff up to C+, Daybreak up to A-, Xeno Staff up to B+.
30/9/16 - Added Seedler (B). Stardust Cell Staff up to B+.
3/10/16 - Candy Corn Rifle up to B-.
19/10/16 - Laser Machinegun down to A, Flairon down to A+, Psycho Knife up to C-, Golem's Fist down to B-. Added Butcher's Chainsaw (C-).
28/10/16 - Nail Gun down to B-. Point of Contention symbol added and applied to Flairon, Possessed Hatchet, Paladin's Hammer, Psycho Knife, Butcher's Chainsaw, Shadowbeam Staff, Stake Launcher, Candy Corn Rifle, Toxic Flask.
3/6/17 - Aerial Bane (A), Flying Dragon (A), Betsy's Wrath (B+) and Sky Dragon's Fury (C+) added. Stardust Cell Staff up to A-, Daybreak up to A, Butcher's Chainsaw up to C. Flairon down to A. Rainbow Gun, Venus Magnum, Electrosphere Launcher, Charged Blaster Cannon and Razorblade Typhoon marked for contention.
18/6/17 - Lunar Portal Staff up to B, Rainbow Crystal Staff down to B, Possessed Hatchet down to B+.
19/6/17 - Flying Dragon down to A-. Procedures for reworking the movement system are in progress.
20/6/17 - Xeno Staff up to A-.
24/10/18 - Horseman's Blade, Tactical Shotgun and Sniper Rifle marked for contention. Stardust Guardian removed (why was that here anyway?) Added Tavernkeep staffs.
24/11/18 - Stynger, Vampire Knives and Possessed Hatchet marked for contention.
25/11/18 - Razorblade Typhoon up to A+.
12/12/18 - Possessed Hatchet up to A-, Wasp Gun up to B.
6/13/19: Thread refurbishing for 1.4 begun. Several weapons moved around, asterisks added. Several new weapons added as well.
6/14/19: Sniper Rifle, Rainbow Gun up to B, Vampire Knives up to B+. Nail Gun marked for contention.
30/9/16 - Added Seedler (B). Stardust Cell Staff up to B+.
3/10/16 - Candy Corn Rifle up to B-.
19/10/16 - Laser Machinegun down to A, Flairon down to A+, Psycho Knife up to C-, Golem's Fist down to B-. Added Butcher's Chainsaw (C-).
28/10/16 - Nail Gun down to B-. Point of Contention symbol added and applied to Flairon, Possessed Hatchet, Paladin's Hammer, Psycho Knife, Butcher's Chainsaw, Shadowbeam Staff, Stake Launcher, Candy Corn Rifle, Toxic Flask.
3/6/17 - Aerial Bane (A), Flying Dragon (A), Betsy's Wrath (B+) and Sky Dragon's Fury (C+) added. Stardust Cell Staff up to A-, Daybreak up to A, Butcher's Chainsaw up to C. Flairon down to A. Rainbow Gun, Venus Magnum, Electrosphere Launcher, Charged Blaster Cannon and Razorblade Typhoon marked for contention.
18/6/17 - Lunar Portal Staff up to B, Rainbow Crystal Staff down to B, Possessed Hatchet down to B+.
19/6/17 - Flying Dragon down to A-. Procedures for reworking the movement system are in progress.
20/6/17 - Xeno Staff up to A-.
24/10/18 - Horseman's Blade, Tactical Shotgun and Sniper Rifle marked for contention. Stardust Guardian removed (why was that here anyway?) Added Tavernkeep staffs.
24/11/18 - Stynger, Vampire Knives and Possessed Hatchet marked for contention.
25/11/18 - Razorblade Typhoon up to A+.
12/12/18 - Possessed Hatchet up to A-, Wasp Gun up to B.
6/13/19: Thread refurbishing for 1.4 begun. Several weapons moved around, asterisks added. Several new weapons added as well.
6/14/19: Sniper Rifle, Rainbow Gun up to B, Vampire Knives up to B+. Nail Gun marked for contention.
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