One Terraria: An Introduction & Future Impacts

Discussion in 'Console - 505 Games/Pipeworks Studio' started by Cenx, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Cenx

    Cenx Lead Developer Staff Member Re-Logic Administrator


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    One Terraria


    "One Terraria" - For too long, we have felt that the Terraria community was too "fragmented", driven by some pretty large content differences between the various versions. One of the key goals of the Console & Mobile rewrite is to bridge that gap and bring everyone together into a more unified experience. What does that mean, exactly?
    • Bringing the other versions more in-line with the expectations of the core PC version in regards to gameplay and visuals - only deviating where appropriate or needed.
    • Narrowing - or even potentially eliminating - the "update gap" between PC updates and when these are rolled out to Console (and Mobile).
    • Once that is in place, even exploring more "out there" ideas like crossplay or content sharing that such parity could potentially allow (no promises here - just sharing the thinking! ;) )

    So, what does this mean in practical terms? That we have done all that we can to make what you will receive as close as possible to the PC Terraria 1.3 experience. It also means that the teams have a pretty aggressive update plan moving forward with the goal of fully catching Console (and eventually, Mobile) up to PC... and then closely coordinating update development once we are at parity to greatly shrink or even remove the "update gap" altogether. Once we get all of that together, gone should be the days of Console and Mobile players getting content up to a year later - if all goes to plan.

    We suspect that will be music to your ears - and it certainly is to ours! We are looking forward to sharing the details of that plan once we get through the Console 1.3 launch window. That said, this plan has other implications, so we encourage you to read up on those below. Taken together, we are confident that this will put Terraria and the community in a much better place a year from now than today - and today is pretty good already. :cool:


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    Console Exclusives

    Several of you asked along the way what would come of the exclusive content that was originally released for console Terraria at launch in 2013. As we noted in response, the teams were going to take a close look at all of that content and decide what the best path forward would be here. Below, you will find the end results of that review. We fully expect that this will be met with a mixed reaction, so we want to share the "why" and logic behind this decision up front. In the end, we feel this will be a small bit of short term pain for some... with some longer term benefits for everyone.

    Most of the current "exclusive" content in Console will be greatly changed or phased out altogether. (Details Below)

    Why?
    • When this content was added to the game, things were very different. PC development had ceased for a time, and this was all "endgame" content for everyone to interact with and continue their adventure.
    • Since that time, things have obviously greatly changed for Terraria and the game's development. Quite simply, the game has outgrown the content itself and even the need for there to be exclusives for console.
    • The content itself is obsolete and has never fit with the vision for Terraria. What was endgame gear is now a mix of vanity and mid-game gear that is more of a stopgap/alternate to Chlorophyte that is simply not needed in the game anymore.
    • These tweaks make possible that the remaining content may see its way onto PC, finally yielding a true "One Terraria" experience once the "catch up" effort is completed.

    What is changing?
    • Current Console Exclusive armors will remain in game, but will be converted to vanity sets. These will be available via the Traveling Merchant's rotating inventory.
      • Currently-owned sets will still exist, but will automatically be changed to Vanity.
    • Current Console Exclusive weapons will be removed from the game entirely.
      • Currently-owned weapons will be automatically replaced with similar gear at the Chlorophyte tier (i.e. Tonbogiris will be replaced with Chlorophyte Partisans)
      • Sharanga will be replaced with Hellwing Bow and Spectral Arrows/Vulcan Bolts with Hellfire/Chlorophyte arrows, respectively
    • Console-Exclusive mobs will be removed in their entirety.
      • Most of these were reskins/recolors that do not fit into vision and balance of the game. There is a chance that a few of the more interesting will be revisited at a later date.
    • Console Vanity will be removed from the game, with the exception of the Horned God set. This will be added to the Traveling Merchant's inventory.
    • Sparkly Wings will be removed from the game
      • Currently-owned Sparkly Wings will be replaced by Cenx's Wings.
    • Console-exclusive Pets will be removed from the game
      • Currently-owned exclusive pets will be replaced with a gold bunny each. Feel free to sell him for 10g or put it in your very own bunny cage to replace that pet companionship.
      • There is a chance that a few of these will be revisited at a later date and re-added to the game with revamped art and/or AI.

    These changes will also apply to the Mobile version of Terraria. **We have not yet discussed the Mobile Exclusive Content. We do, however, understand that the Mobile experience is a different and unique one - so we would ask that no one attempt to draw any premature conclusions on what will happen there based on what our decisions were here. :)

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    What about Ocram?
    You will have noticed that Ocram was missing from our list above. Well, to be honest, we have never felt Ocram was a good fit or a really engaging boss fight. So, we are afraid that Ocram will be leaving us once the Terraria Console 1.3 update arrives.

    Ocram Changes

    • Ocram and his related mobs and summons will be removed from the game.
    • Ocram Mask and Trophy will remain in the game as "legacy" items. Any that exist at the update will remain, but there will be no further way to obtain them in game once the update arrives.
    • Souls of Blight will be removed from the game
    • Players will receive 5g for each Soul of Blight owned (the current sell price of Souls of Blight)
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    Whew, that was a lot to cover! We are sure that you all have tons of questions, and we will seek to answer them as we can. No, we do not have an exact date to give you right this second other than to say a TON of progress has been made and the team is hopeful to have something more concrete to share soon. The Pipeworks team is focused on the last few things before they can submit - squashing the final list of bugs and working on Split Screen Multiplayer performance optimization. Once those are wrapped up, they should be ready to submit. The goal remains to reach submission before the end of Q3, but we will not submit before the game is ready. We will absolutely let you know the instant submission occurs or if a bit more time will be needed.

    Thanks for all of your support along this long and winding journey to Console and Mobile 1.3. We know it has required your patience, but we are confident that the end result will be well worth the wait!
     
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  2. Nike Leon

    Nike Leon Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Glad to finally get some news! And who doesn't want legendary legacy items to show the noobs who join after the update? :p
     
  3. GoldenTerrabyte

    GoldenTerrabyte Official Terrarian

    Interesting news. I actually expected to hear just the opposite; the possibility of Console's content being added to PC for parity. I'm fine with this change, because I agreed with these reasons since the beginning, however I won't be surprised if I see people unhappy.
     
  4. Maci D

    Maci D Skeletron

    I'm actually quite relieved that the console exclusive items and monsters will be tweaked/removed from the game; they were just reskins and some of them messed up the spawn rates for more valuable monsters (eg. the shark and Orca spawn nonsense). Thank you to Pipeworks for working their best and hardest and this update will be worth the wait :)
     
  5. Kazzymodus

    Kazzymodus Lunatic Cultist

    My first and foremost (and only, come to think of it) question is this: will console exclusives remain exclusive, or will they be added to the main game as well? I mean, since it's only vanity now, there wouldn't be much harm in also lifting them to Terraria Prime.
     
  6. Nike Leon

    Nike Leon Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Orca's for a while there made farming for a diving helmet a real pain!
     
  7. Qui Devorat

    Qui Devorat Terrarian

    Well that's a shame. Pleased that the gap is being lessened though.
     
  8. Nike Leon

    Nike Leon Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    I think this is the closest you'll get as an answer right now.
     
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  9. Maci D

    Maci D Skeletron

    Yeah and don't get me started with the pain of Shark fin farming. Haha.
     
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  10. Safeman

    Safeman Community Manager Staff Member Re-Logic

    Not at this time, it will be something the devs will need to consider down the road.
     
  11. Valkyrie Valhalla

    Valkyrie Valhalla Dungeon Spirit

    Rest in peace, Ocram.

    You were fine son, real fine.

    You deserved better, but it ends here.
     
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  12. ReaperLord

    ReaperLord Terrarian

    Aww man the removal of 90% of the console exclusives seriously sucks. Well, I guess it must happen.
     
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  13. Jetstream ∞

    Jetstream ∞ Cultist

    That makes me so sad. Ocram's my favorite boss ;~;
     
  14. Necrius

    Necrius Skeletron Prime

    Nice. Though kinda disappointed it's wasn't a post about PC Terraria or T:OW.
     
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  15. Cenx

    Cenx Lead Developer Staff Member Re-Logic Administrator

    1.3.6 is still a ways out. We are taking our time with this one and having fun!
     
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  16. Decivre

    Decivre Terrarian

    So there is one console exclusive that wasn't mentioned I'd like to know about, and whether it'll be ported to the PC version: split-screen play.

    Can we get info on this?
     
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  17. ReaperLord

    ReaperLord Terrarian

    I myself would not see that working well and I think split-screen is there so people can do some living room couch gaming, which is not considered a priority on PC.
     
  18. Cenx

    Cenx Lead Developer Staff Member Re-Logic Administrator

    Not likely. We have talked about it a few times but have not made the decision to add this feature to PC.
     
  19. Decivre

    Decivre Terrarian

    Yeah, but it's also self-fulfilling prophecy. Couch-gaming on PC isn't a big thing because there are few PC games that offer it. You're stuck with fighting games and the occasional beat-em-up like Gauntlet.

    With 4k support already being covered, it seems a shame not to make it an option for multiple people to play on a single PC now. My PC supports far more controllers than any console as-is. But nothing exists to take advantage of this.
     
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  20. ppowersteef

    ppowersteef Paladin

    It's kind of sad to see content vanish from the game.

    Even while I was not a Console owner, I do have enjoyed the Tizona's design.
    back in 1.1, I always thought the console exclusive items worth the endgame grind, but things have changed and the endgame has become mediocre.
    I can understand why this descision is made.

    Man, I remembered that I included the console exclusive armors in my 'all-armor' picture, and I've gotten a lot of praise for adding these. I'll likely miss that moment.

    On the other hand, I'm kind of relieved that beings like Turkor and Lepus doesn't make their appearance on PC.