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Rounding Out the Journey: Terraria 1.4.1 is Here!

Dark Mage1823

Terrarian
Love the updates guys!

Been playing since the very early days of Terraria on multiple platforms (Mobile, Xbox, Pc), its been a blast seeing it evolve and become the awesome game it is now!
Good job Relogic!

(Personally, Idk why, I wanted the Nebula Pillar to perform an attack like the others (Portals, Fireballs and Summoning) but im still happy!)

Thanks for all the enjoyment you've given to me (and many other people around the world!) over the years from this gem of a game.
Truly, I am Grateful for this blessing you've given to us! I hope you guys do great things in the future with your next games and your lives as well!

Thanks for reading and have a nice day! <3
 
am i missing something here...?
This has been an on-going thing, I may be new to the Terraria forums, but I'm also on Steam (have been for several years). The discussion just happened to make its way here, but it's quite old. The main reason I joined the forums was because of the Vanity Contest, I didn't come here with some kind of agenda to take over or something...
 

Ilmarinen

Terrarian
I've always wondered why the world-corruption could so easily ruin the jungle with no way to fix it beyond preventing it in the first place or destroying the area entirely.. It's the only primary biome that suffers in such a way.
It's an artifact of the earlier versions of Terraria's development. Hardmode was just a challenge mode so things like biome spread didn't need to be balanced, same thing about the jungle in hardmode. Jungle use to have no purpose in hardmode so it didn't matter if it was destroyed or not.
 

ZeroJinKui

Terrarian
I give up.. you don’t get it either hey @Snapshot03 cam you tell us why you really meant
This has been an on-going thing, I may be new to the Terraria forums, but I'm also on Steam (have been for several years). The discussion just happened to make its way here, but it's quite old. The main reason I joined the forums was because of the Vanity Contest, I didn't come here with some kind of agenda to take over or something...
doesn't change the fact that you're just a fan, yet you're talking as if you know better than the creators of the game and that they should listen to you and only you.

steam means nothing to me, so i dunno why you bring that up.

It's an artifact of the earlier versions of Terraria's development. Hardmode was just a challenge mode so things like biome spread didn't need to be balanced, same thing about the jungle in hardmode. Jungle use to have no purpose in hardmode so it didn't matter if it was destroyed or not.
still seems like something that should've changed along the way, since the jungle has become probably the most important biome in the game.

i suppose that is why it gets its own special seed, turning the entire world into the jungle.

i can't wait to make a "not the bees" world... hope DR finishes mobile soon so they can get to work on console.
 

Hauntling Ω

Plantera
I meant will there be more updates after 1.4.1
There will be bugfixes, but no content updates.
I give up.. you don’t get it either hey @Snapshot03 cam you tell us why you really meant
I don't get why you thought he was asking about console in a thread that is meant for a PC exclusive update (for now). Also the fact that if you look at his profile he does in fact own the PC version.
 
doesn't change the fact that you're just a fan, yet you're talking as if you know better than the creators of the game and that they should listen to you and only you.
steam means nothing to me, so i dunno why you bring that up.
You asked, "did I miss something"? I'm telling you yes, you missed like 4+ years of me trying to figure out why I couldn't get into this game, Terraria. Steam is where I came from, a place where you can discuss Terraria & post videos, the official forums are new to me, but the conversations aren't any different.

Yeah, I'm a fan of the game, but I think you're using the fact that I'm new here, as an excuse to be dismissive. Before 1.4.0 released, I had plans on creating an entire Tutorial Map, to try & explain the fundamentals of this game to a newer player. I got lucky & "Journey Mode" was announced, which made my 2+ year project obsolete. I've been dissecting this game for about 2 & 1/2 years, I know how difficult it is to balance, because I specialize in some areas. It's not that I know better than the devs, it's that we have a lot of the same goals.

Back in July 2019, I officially released my own State of the Game address, it was a personal declaration that I happened to share with a small group of friends, if you notice how much work I was putting into making Terraria feel like an actual game, you'd understand that I'm actually a bit shocked & grateful that the devs are fans of this game too, but, that can cut both ways, as sometimes fans don't know when to stop! I never imagined that the devs would OD, but these newer 1.4.1 additions are questionable.

We're actually at a point in gaming, that I'd never thought I'd see, where the devs actually need to stop. Typically it's the fanbase pushing for new stuff, when the devs have likely already moved on, creatively & emotionally. If that's the case, it's our job to be the voice of reason. This is a unique situation & I don't expect anyone to understand, because most fans would keep adding stuff to this game, to the point that it breaks. I'm not one of those fans... 🤷‍♂️ 🥤

To be honest I have to agree with this, Toxiphilite, you're talking like the developers pay attention to literally everyone and they have picked you out as someone who knows best.
Are you willing to tell the developers to "stop"? What I'm saying is, I have yet to meet another fan who is willing to tell the developer they've done a great job & can now stop working so hard. Creating a video game isn't easy & the number of brain cells these gais must be burning, trying to iron this game out are tremendous. I can relate because I've used that kind of brain power to create clever reference & designs for this game, taking it's original source material into account. There people have done a tremendous job & are doing the impossible, we need to have the willpower to let them know they've done enough.

I try not to critique you gais, because I know a LOT of Terraria fans are young, & don't understand things like humility & moderation yet. Even so, as I said earlier, it's our responsibility to look out for the people who are doing so much for us & to help where we can. I just wanna help the devs because they're working themselves into exhaustion; I don't expect the average player to understand that or care, but I do.


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Nicol Bolas

Terrarian
Are you willing to tell the developers to "stop"? What I'm saying is, I have yet to meet another fan who is willing to tell the developer they've done a great job & can now stop working so hard. Creating a video game isn't easy & the number of brain cells these gais must be burning, trying to iron this game out are tremendous. I can relate because I've used that kind of brain power to create clever reference & designs for this game, taking it's original source material into account. There people have done a tremendous job & are doing the impossible, we need to have the willpower to let them know they've done enough.
I think there's a difference between "the game is in a good place now, so you can stop making new content" and "you need to stop making new content". These are different statements with different meanings. The first is a suggestion; the second is a demand.

I would have been fine with Terraria 1.3.5 if they never made 1.4.0. Is 1.4.0 better? Mostly. Is 1.4.1 better than that? Mostly. But at no point do I feel that users have some "obligation" to demand that the developers stop making content. I can speak my mind about the quality of any particular piece of content. But that's a statement about a particular piece of content.

If you want to say that the developers ought to stop making content, fine. If you think some of their newer stuff is "questionable", fine; make that argument. But if you want to make the even stronger statement that we the community ought to agree with you, then you're going to have to put forth a lot stronger case than you have such far. That is, you have to convince us that "these newer 1.4.1 additions are questionable."

Because outside of happiness, a lot of people seem happier with the balance and item changes that were made.

I try not to critique you gais, because I know a LOT of Terraria fans are young, & don't understand things like humility & moderation yet.
And apparently, some older Terraria fans aren't aware that being condescending is not an effective tactic for getting people to agree with you.
 

qwerty3.14

Terrarian
VANITY OVERHAUL

Vanity Overhaul? What exactly do we mean here? Well - the way armors and vanity sets used to work was a bit limiting, particularly in regards to the way "back" items worked. So, we made it better! For just one example: why pick between showing Wings or a Cape, for example, when you can have both!

Armors and vanity items which draw on the back (backpacks, tails, wings, and capes) are now no longer mutually exclusive. This means that you can now have one of any of those four categories all displaying at the same time. Previously, only one of those could ever be visible at a time (for instance, if you had visible wings, you could not ever see a cape, backpack, or tail).

Here is a visual explaining what we mean:

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Prior to Terraria 1.4.1: The use of visible wings prevented capes from being visible, while the use of capes prevented shields from being visible.


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In 1.4.1, these elements no longer conflict with each other, and can be used together in various combinations


There are even more overhauls to the vanity system to explore, so be sure to check out the full changelog for all the juicy details!
Can you make capes work with mounts too?
 
I think there's a difference between "the game is in a good place now, so you can stop making new content" and "you need to stop making new content". These are different statements with different meanings. The first is a suggestion; the second is a demand.
There's no way it would ever be possible for me to demand anything of anyone here, I've been the vocal minority both here & on the Steam forums. There's very few times that anyone here has ever agreed with my point of view on things, very rarely. I'm not sure how anyone here could conclude that I'm demanding anything. If you are equating the fact that it makes you uncomfortable that, yes, your duty as a fellow human being, is to look out for your fellow man, well... that's a different topic. Looking after the people who do right by you & their health is a civic duty, if you find it too much to bare or consider, it's not totally unusual, it happens often. 🤷‍♂️🥤 No one can demand this of you, but they can remind you that it's your moral obligation to uphold, just like washing your hands or covering your mouth when you sneeze. Like I said, you should do it, but I've seen people who just don't...

I would have been fine with Terraria 1.3.5 if they never made 1.4.0. Is 1.4.0 better? Mostly. Is 1.4.1 better than that? Mostly. But at no point do I feel that users have some "obligation" to demand that the developers stop making content. I can speak my mind about the quality of any particular piece of content. But that's a statement about a particular piece of content.
As I said, you can... & I don't recall ever suggesting to you personally that you should stop asking for things. I just recognize that the developers are showing signs of overworking, frustration & fatigue. That's a sign of burnout & the humane thing to do is tell a person that they should probably stop & if stopping is impossible, lend a helping hand. It's a simple concept, really. This isn't to be snarly either, as I said before, a LOT of things are easy, like washing your hands, but you'd be shocked at the number of people who don't bother to do it, even though peoples lives may be at risk, they simply can't be bothered. 🤷‍♂️🥤

If you want to say that the developers ought to stop making content, fine. If you think some of their newer stuff is "questionable", fine; make that argument. But if you want to make the even stronger statement that we the community ought to agree with you, then you're going to have to put forth a lot stronger case than you have such far. That is, you have to convince us that "these newer 1.4.1 additions are questionable."
No I don't. I'm saying "wash your hands please." Once you say "no", there's nothing I can do to make you do it.

Because outside of happiness, a lot of people seem happier with the balance and item changes that were made.
I'm happy with them too, but I also care about the welfare of the people making these changes. Terraria is extremely hard to balance, I know this from experience. They're not gonna be able to please everyone & are gonna have to come to terms with that. I did my part by mostly solving the issue with Summoner, which I saw coming a mile away. I did my part, but the only reason we are having this discussion is because people are critical of my methods, which is fair. I don't mind making people angry, especially if it saves them from themselves. I'm not the type of person or friend who enables people, if your on some BS, I'm the friend who's gonna tell you, even at the cost of our friendship. 🤷‍♂️🥤

And apparently, some older Terraria fans aren't aware that being condescending is not an effective tactic for getting people to agree with you.
I'm 1000% against crunch culture in the videogames industry. I don't care who agrees with me or not, it's unhealthy.
 

Hauntling Ω

Plantera
you should be able to choose between mineral sets, sometimes I spend time creating worlds with the minerals I want.
The 1.2 minerals are objectively better than the prior ones and this would make world variety far less interesting for the people who know what they’re doing. Tin is always stronger than copper, lead is always stronger than iron, tungsten is always stronger than silver, and platinum is always stronger than gold. There are no exceptions to this.
 

Nicol Bolas

Terrarian
As I said, you can... & I don't recall ever suggesting to you personally that you should stop asking for things. I just recognize that the developers are showing signs of overworking, frustration & fatigue. That's a sign of burnout & the humane thing to do is tell a person that they should probably stop & if stopping is impossible, lend a helping hand.
Then perhaps you should consider that what you see as "signs of overworking, frustration & fatigue" may in fact not be those things. Or that other people don't necessarily agree that what you see as signs of those things are actually indicative of them. And therefore, when they react negatively to your suggestions, that they're not doing so from a position where they want the developers to work themselves to death.

No I don't. I'm saying "wash your hands please."
At no point in this conversation have you said anything approaching the politeness implied by the word "please".

I'm 1000% against crunch culture in the videogames industry. I don't care who agrees with me or not, it's unhealthy.
But since nobody here has said anything about supporting crunch culture, I don't know why that matters.
 
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