PC What is the weakest class in your opinion, as of the release of 1.4?

[SuperSkeletonboi]

Defense isn’t a good stat. Also summoner has Access to the Valhalla Knight set which has both good defense and regeneration.

uh yea, but it doesn't increase any minion slots nor boost the speed of whips(changing armor pieces is annoyinh in a boss fight cuz maybe u have to change but ur surronded by projectiles

 

[Derpling Ω]

uh yea, but it doesn't increase any minion slots nor boost the speed of whips(changing armor pieces is annoyinh in a boss fight cuz maybe u have to change but ur surronded by projectiles

It’s survivability doesn’t come from a set bonus so you can easily just hybridize the single piece that gives you all of it with other armors.

 

[SuperSkeletonboi]

It’s survivability doesn’t come from a set bonus so you can easily just hybridize the single piece that gives you all of it with other armors.

cuz its that hard maybe i should just switch to the other classes that have better survivability and can still easily maximize stats

 

[whoneedsnamestbh]

cuz its that hard maybe i should just switch to the other classes that have better survivability and can still easily maximize stats

Summoner’s trash survivability is its balance. It pulls more than enough damage for the majority of the game, usually more than ranged or mage, to pay off for its lower defense/no damage reduction and a lower effective range.

Edit: and Valhalla Armor is just mixing that up, you sacrifice some offense for some defense. It’s not trash for you to trade offense for survivability.

 

[Derpling Ω]

cuz its that hard maybe i should just switch to the other classes that have better survivability and can still easily maximize stats

I don’t think there’s another class which can get 6hp regen/sec off of armor alone before endgame. That’s like getting a greater healing potion every 25 seconds btw. Melee doesn’t even come close to that. This is also considering you don’t use any accessories or buffs with it.

 

[Dreadnautilus5000]

cuz its that hard maybe i should just switch to the other classes that have better survivability and can still easily maximize stats

How is it hard to equip armour pieces from different sets

 

[SuperSkeletonboi]

I don’t think there’s another class which can get 6hp regen/sec off of armor alone before endgame. That’s like getting a greater healing potion every 25 seconds btw. Melee doesn’t even come close to that. This is also considering you don’t use any accessories or buffs with it.

solar flare armor has somthing like that but 4.5hp regen/sec

 

[Dreadnautilus5000]

solar flare armor has somthing like that but 4.5hp regen/sec

It's actually +3 hp/s

 

[SuperSkeletonboi]

How is it hard to equip armour pieces from different sets

lossing out on the set bouns and other stuff from stardust armor, also you can't manuver and attack while changing set sooooo-

 

[Dreadnautilus5000]

lossing out on the set bouns and other stuff from stardust armor, also you can't manuver and attack while changing set sooooo-

Why would you change sets while fighting a boss, just do it before the battle. Also sometimes set bonuses can be weaker than hybrid sets.

 

[SuperSkeletonboi]

Summoner’s trash survivability is its balance. It pulls more than enough damage for the majority of the game, usually more than ranged or mage, to pay off for its lower defense/no damage reduction and a lower effective range.

Edit: and Valhalla Armor is just mixing that up, you sacrifice some offense for some defense. It’s not trash for you to trade offense for survivability.

stormbow exists eventide has always been op (uzi is kinda meh in dps but better than mega shark) yknow, for mages, blizzard staff and razorblade typhoon (if your stoopid enought to fight duke boi early hm like me)

 

[SuperSkeletonboi]

Why would you change sets while fighting a boss, just do it before the battle. Also sometimes set bonuses can be weaker than hybrid sets.

remember the spectre armor issue with mages?

 

[Dreadnautilus5000]

stormbow exists eventide has always been op (uzi is kinda meh in dps but better than mega shark) yknow, for mages, blizzard staff and razorblade typhoon (if your stoopid enought to fight duke boi early hm like me)

The Daedulus Stormbow is useless after Plantera, especially after its 1.4 nerf

 

[whoneedsnamestbh]

Stardust’s set bonus is overrated; the stardust guardian has range and worse DPS than any minions in its stage.

Anyway, Valhalla is pre-lunar so it’s more fair to compare it to compare it to Spooky, Switching out the chestplate, you only lose a measley 6% damage total and 2 minions in exchange for like 13 extra points of defense and 2hp/s of life regen. That’s a fair trade in my book - not one I’d always go for because I prefer offense, but a good deal.

 

[SuperSkeletonboi]

stormbow only lost dmg tho (holy arrows no longer pierce sad )

 

[SuperSkeletonboi]

Stardust’s set bonus is overrated; the stardust guardian has range and worse DPS than any minions in its stage.

Anyway, Valhalla is pre-lunar so it’s more fair to compare it to compare it to Spooky, Switching out the chestplate, you only lose a measley 6% damage total and 2 minions in exchange for like 13 extra points of defense and 2hp/s of life regen. That’s a fair trade in my book - not one I’d always go for because I prefer offense, but a good deal.

1.4 it got a buff

 

[Dreadnautilus5000]

Stardust’s set bonus is overrated; the stardust guardian has range and worse DPS than any minions in its stage.

So it should be buffed even more

 

[whoneedsnamestbh]

stormbow exists eventide has always been op (uzi is kinda meh in dps but better than mega shark) yknow, for mages, blizzard staff and razorblade typhoon (if your stoopid enought to fight duke boi early hm like me)

At Stormbow stage, you can also get the absurdly powerful Sanguine Staff. At Eventide/Typhoon tier, you’re likely running Desert Tiger or Xenoes with either Morningstar or Kaleidoscope. All of those are powerful weapon combos that can pull upwards of 500 for sanguine/ 3000 DPS for post-empress for their tier, sometimes more.

 

[SuperSkeletonboi]

At Stormbow stage, you can also get the absurdly powerful Sanguine Staff. At Eventide/Typhoon tier, you’re likely running Desert Tiger or Xenoes with either Morningstar or Kaleidoscope. All of those are powerful weapon combos that can pull upwards of 3000 DPS for their tier, sometimes more.

desert tiger has some werid *** physics fighting bosses tho like eol and golem, it kinda just hovers over them

 

[whoneedsnamestbh]

1.4 it got a buff

I’m referring to the buffed 1.4 version. Stardust Guardian’s effective attack range is lower than the Kaleidoscope, it takes a while to connect with enemies which you’d likely just kill first, and its DPS is subpar. I’d be fine with losing it in favor for hybrids.