Weapons & Equip - CURSED MASK - Exchange Hearts for "Things"

[Dapling]

Why is removing hearts a need? I’m curious why you think this is a need. It hasn’t ever existed before, why does it need to exist now?

Because there are several thresholds where having different hp values does something and extremely limited ways to manipulate them. There’s also no way to go below 100 hp in vanilla which prevents challenge runs and boss kills with lower hp without third party tools (something console and mobile don’t have access to)
There’s plenty of reason for it to exist because of that last part alone.

 

[QWizard]

Because there are several thresholds where having different hp values does something and extremely limited ways to manipulate them.

Can you expand on this part? I don’t know what you refer to.

There’s also no way to go below 100 hp in vanilla which prevents challenge runs and boss kills with lower hp without third party tools (something console and mobile don’t have access to)
There’s plenty of reason for it to exist because of that last part alone.

If your goal is just to go below 100hp for challenge run purposes, perhaps a better suggestion would for some Journey Mode ability to change your life stat or an option to lower your life stat on new character creation below default rather than a suggested item

 

[random terraria fan]

It feels like a mod to me, I’m not going to feel different because you tell me it’s silly to feel that way.

You quoted the same items as me, but you avoid fact that they all do something in Terraria where there is already something existing that is close to the purpose of each of these items. Very weak arguments from you in my opinion, they are stretching pretty far I’ll give you that. Doesn’t matter if they have minor traits about them that are new, I suggest the purpose of these items is what is more relevant than the development behind them.

Shell-Phone & Pylons: Long-Distance Transporation

i feel like this would have felt modded before it got added it is a very cool item but still

Tabi: Character Agility (Wings, +Jumps, Grapple, Etc)

this does make you more agil but that is the only similarity to be honest i feel like alot of items would have felt modded before they got added

 

[Dapling]

You quoted the same items as me, but you avoid fact that they all do something in Terraria where there is already something existing that is close to the purpose of each of these items. Very weak arguments from you in my opinion, they are stretching pretty far I’ll give you that. Doesn’t matter if they have minor traits about them that are new, I suggest the purpose of these items is what is more relevant than the development behind them.

If you want more examples of “items you would have been laughed out of the room for suggesting before they were added” take a look at Shimmer and Grand Design too.

What does shimmer and the grand design do that was ever even thought of before they were added? Did you fully read what I said? Because a lot of what you're saying there is worded like you didn't.

I don't see how my arguments are weak when I was pretty much mirroring what you were doing except I elaborated further than you did. In fact what you said was so vague and non-specific that I feel like "stretching pretty far" applies to it even more than what I said. You were creating venn diagrams broad enough that they incidentally overlap, rather than pointing to the nuance and technical precedence of the items themselves.

Can you expand on this part? I don’t know what you refer to.

eye of cthulhu, deerclops, nurse, and goblin army all spawn at different thresholds. If you want to afk farm you could sacrifice enough health to prevent all of those hostile things from spawning while doing it.

If your goal is just to go below 100hp for challenge run purposes, perhaps a better suggestion would for some Journey Mode ability to change your life stat or an option to lower your life stat on new character creation below default rather than a suggested item

Journey mode is not the end-all be-all of testing. Hardcore ghosts are 100% inaccessible in journey worlds and have many properties which cannot be emulated otherwise. New character creation also has issues because you can't directly manipulate your health post-creation that way, which you would want for the reasons listed above.

 

[QWizard]

What does shimmer and the grand design do that was ever even thought of before they were added? Did you fully read what I said? Because a lot of what you're saying there is worded like you didn't.

I fully read what you said, you’re right that my perspective was broad. I did indicate that I was looking at theme, which is broad. I already explained why I feel this suggestion isn’t in theme. I still feel this suggestion may best be a “mod” and not in base Terraria, I wasn’t convinced by what you replied but I do understand you are passionate in your opinion. I will agree to disagree and move on.