Weapons & Equip Ideas for a 3rd weapon for each pillar

[Flint🪓]

Since we are getting a stardust whip that means the stardust pillar will have 3 weapons but nothing about the other pillars, mainly i´ve seen people suggest a yoyo for the solar pillar, a launcher for vortex and a tome for nebula. So here are my ideas for those:

Pocket sun (yoyo):

• 50 damage.
• Range of 25 tiles.
• 25 UseTime
• On hit causes an explosion dealing 3x of the base damage, these inflict the daybreak debuff.
• Infinite duration.

Blackhole shaker (rocket launcher):

• 225 damage.
• 35 UseTime.
• Fired proyectiles home into enemies.
• For every 25 damage the ammo used has the proyectile fired will have +7% bigger size and explosion radius.

Astral sorcery (tome):

• 78 damage.
• 13 UseTime.
• 7 mana cost.
• When used stars will spawn like the Horseman's Blade pumpkins do, these home the nearest target and can pierce once but lose half their damage when doing so.

 

[AmberTheSeal]

These seem great and interesting. Tho it depends on the Stardust-looking Whip being a 3rd weapon indeed. Either way, the weapons you suggest seem cool.

Pocket sun

Oh my god I love that name

 

[J Bame]

On hit causes an explosion dealing 3x of the base damage, these inflict the daybreak debuff.

Whats the difference between hits dealing triple damage and the yoyo having 150 base damage?

Blackhole shaker:

• 225 damage.
• 35 UseTime.
• Fired proyectiles home into enemies.
• For every 25 damage the ammo used has the proyectile fired will have +15% bigger size and explosion radius.

This ends with Explosions that cover half the screen or more. Kinda dig it, actually.

Astral sorcery:

• 78 damage.
• 13 UseTime.
• 7 mana cost.
• When used stars will spawn like the Horseman's Blade pumpkins do, these home the nearest target and can pierce once but lose half their damage when doing so.

I dont know, Nebula Blaze and Arcanum are already homing projectiles for single targets and crowd control, this one is basically an inbetween that im not sure will be used over the other two.

 

[Flint🪓]

Whats the difference between hits dealing triple damage and the yoyo having 150 base damage?

None, but it´s more unique than just another yoyo that inflicts a debuff. Also it hits the target and then causes the explosion, it wouldn´t be 150 damage.

This ends with Explosions that cover half the screen or more. Kinda dig it, actually.

Whopsie.

I dont know, Nebula Blaze and Arcanum are already homing projectiles for single targets and crowd control, this one is basically an inbetween that im not sure will be used over the other two.

Making it an inbetween was actually my intention but I don´t know how to make it more useful since razorblade typhoon exists.

 

[Big Sammich]

Whats the difference between hits dealing triple damage and the yoyo having 150 base damage?

Crowd control, and it looks flashy. Plus it adds up to 200 base damage, not 150.

 

[wMODDED_MOONLORD🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑]

any ideas for zenith for other classes?

 

[Big Sammich]

any ideas for zenith for other classes?

Zenith for other classes is a fool's errand.

 

[sunner]

Zenith for other classes is a fool's errand.

Relogic: I don't have favorites. I love my children all the same.
Melee: *exists*

 

[Flint🪓]

Relogic: I don't have favorites. I love my children all the same.
Melee: *exists*

Behold, the crappy meme I made in 6 minutes.

Making it an inbetween was actually my intention but I don´t know how to make it more useful since razorblade typhoon exists.

Going back to topic I want to add to my comment that razorblade maybe deserves another slight nerf while nebula weapons need a buff. Razorblade typhoon can do what both do and maybe better.

 

[Green_Metaknight]

Going back to topic I want to add to my comment that razorblade maybe deserves another slight nerf while nebula weapons need a buff. Razorblade typhoon can do what both do and maybe better.

YES! A Razorblade nerf would be AWESOME!

 

[Flint🪓]

YES! A Razorblade nerf would be AWESOME!

Are in support of nerfing it or are u begin sarcastic

 

[Green_Metaknight]

Are in support of nerfing it or are u begin sarcastic

The former.

 

[Heath04🌳]

Going back to topic I want to add to my comment that razorblade maybe deserves another slight nerf while nebula weapons need a buff. Razorblade typhoon can do what both do and maybe better.

I don't think another nerf to razorblade typhoon is necessary, it is not better than either nebula arcanum nor blaze. I don't even consider using it over the bubble gun at this point.

 

[RandomDuckNerd]

Are in support of nerfing it or are u begin sarcastic

I'm in support of nerfing it because I don't want to have to go do duke fishron

 

[wMODDED_MOONLORD🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑]

I did a mage run with razorblade typhoon, but doing battles with the moonlord (trail and error) I found that the arcanum is a slower more powerful version. in the end I sold it because razorblade was just better. I also agree the razorblade typhoon is nerfed enough. so just buff arcanum.

 

[krunkanader]

kid named trae project:

also I have a feeling that the whip will replace the dragon and the dragon becomes a moonlord drop

 

[wMODDED_MOONLORD🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑]

what?

 

[Flint🪓]

kid named trae project:

I don´t understand how mana works in TRAE since as far as I know it got a complete overhaul so I won´t talk about magic weapons there. Also razorblade got reworked into a sidearm there (+ magic weapons are divided in 3 types or something?).

also I have a feeling that the whip will replace the dragon and the dragon becomes a moonlord drop.

Pretty sure in TRAE they actually changed stardust dragon to post-ml, don´t like what they did to my stardust pal.

I did a mage run with razorblade typhoon, but doing battles with the moonlord (trail and error) I found that the arcanum is a slower more powerful version. in the end I sold it because razorblade was just better. I also agree the razorblade typhoon is nerfed enough. so just buff arcanum.

Arcanum is made for crowd control while the blaze is single target. Arcanum as a crowd control weapon works quite well actually but by the time you get it you don´t really need crowd control since the only thing left is Moonlord.

 

[chewythebigblackdog]

I did a mage run with razorblade typhoon, but doing battles with the moonlord (trail and error) I found that the arcanum is a slower more powerful version. in the end I sold it because razorblade was just better. I also agree the razorblade typhoon is nerfed enough. so just buff arcanum.

Nebula Arcanum is an interesting weapon from a balance perspective. It's very powerful, with high dps and absurdly high burst damage (to the point of being able to trivialize content such as empress of light). However, it is weak against fast moving targets, which makes it do poorly against pillars and especially moon lord (which is basically everything that comes after it in progression). Against pillars, the razorblade typhoon and nightglow do better with their higher velocity, and nebula blaze's single target damage combined with ease of use makes it the preferred magic option for ML. While some sort of a velocity buff would be nice, you have to worry about buffing the velocity too much, since it would start to outclass the nebula blaze as a boss damage weapon.

Also, razorblade typhoon isn't particularly good against moon lord either. At least arcanum can be used to deal heavy damage to the forehead eye as it spawns in. Usually, you use nebula blaze against moon lord as a mage (potentially adding in the betsy's wrath + bubble gun combo for extremely high close range dps).

 

[Tanukimario]

kid named trae project:

also I have a feeling that the whip will replace the dragon and the dragon becomes a moonlord drop

Trae is a mod. Not everyone plays moddet, and if they do, not everyone uses Trae.
Also if i recall corectly, there was an moonlord-Inspired whip in 1.6