Weapons & Equip Give Shortswords a Helping Hand

SzGamer227

SzGamer227

Spazmatism
They aren't as sucky as everyone would like to believe, and I think it would be a good idea to give them a fair chance. In order to make Shortswords more useful, I think you should be able to aim Shortswords up or down 45 degrees, so that they have a more useful attack range and are not helpless against flying and jumping enemies.

Now, in order to keep them from being outclassed by spears, we should also add in a few more types of Shortswords. If we're going to move on from the useless weapon image, they should be spread throughout the game a bit more.
These are the single-target DPS values of the various Shortsword involved, including the existing ones.
Copper Shortsword
DPS: 25
Tin Shortsword
DPS: 38
Iron Shortsword
DPS: 44
Lead/Silver Shortsword
DPS: 49
Tungsten Shortsword/
Dewpoint/
Candy Can Shiv
DPS: 60
Gold Shortsword
DPS: 66
Platinum Shortsword
DPS: 87
Shadow Fang
DPS: 90
Eyegouger
DPS: 90
Jungle Sting
DPS: 104
Tanto
DPS: 113
Blazing Shortsword
DPS: 120
Cobalt Sai
DPS: 138
Palladium Dagger
DPS: 155
Mythril Dirk
DPS: 165
Orichalcum Shortsword
DPS: 185
Adamantite Rapier
DPS: 202
Titanium Gladius
DPS: 228
Snowman Shank
DPS: 216
Arondight
DPS: 267
Shroomite Shockblade
DPS: 843
Beetle Berserker
DPS: 858
Soulslasher
DPS: 872

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Dewpoint
A Shortsword that belongs in the same niche as the Zombie Arm.
10 Damage.
4 Knockback.
Use Time: 10 (6 uses/second)
* Dropped by Blue Slimes 1/50 (2%) between 4:30 and 8:30 AM.

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Shadow Fang
15 Damage.
4 Knockback.
Use Time: 10 (6 uses/second)
Recipe:
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Demonite Bar (8)
@ an Anvil.

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Eyegouger
18 Damage.
4.5 Knockback.
Use Time: 12 (5 uses/second)
Recipe:
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Crimtane Bar (8)
@ an Anvil.

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Jungle Sting
A Jungle-tiered Shortsword.
19 Damage.
4 Knockback.
Use Time: 11 (5.5 uses/second)
Recipe:
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Jungle Spore (8)
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Stinger (12)
@ an Anvil.

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Tanto
The Muramasa's smaller counterpart. Found in Dungeon Chests along with the Muramasa.
17 Damage.
4 Knockback.
Use Time: 9 (6.7 uses/second)

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Based on a sprite by ppowersteef.
Blazing Shortsword
A shorter counterpart to the Fiery Greatsword.
* Gives off light.
22 Damage.
4.5 Knockback.
Use Time: 11 (5.5 uses/second)
Recipe:
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Hellstone Bar (17)
@ an Anvil.

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Based on a sprite by ppowersteef.
Cobalt Sai
30 Damage.
4.5 Knockback.
Use Time: 13 (4.6 uses/second)
Recipe:
Cobalt_Bar.png
Cobalt Bar (8)
@ an Anvil.

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Based on a sprite by ppowersteef.
Palladium Dagger
31 Damage.
4.5 Knockback.
Use Time: 12 (5 uses/second)
Recipe:
Palladium_Bar.png
Palladium Bar (8)
@ an Anvil.

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Based on a sprite by ppowersteef.
Mythril Dirk
33 Damage.
4.5 Knockback.
Use Time: 12 (5 uses/second)
Recipe:
Mythril_Bar.png
Mythril Bar (8)
@ a Hardmode Anvil.

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Based on a sprite by drdragonfly.
Orichalcum Shortsword
34 Damage.
5 Knockback.
Use Time: 11 (5.5 uses/second)
Recipe:
Orichalcum_Bar.png
Orichalcum Bar (8)
@ a Hardmode Anvil.

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Based on a sprite by drdragonfly.
Adamantite Rapier
37 Damage.
5 Knockback.
Use Time: 11 (5.5 uses/second)
Recipe:
Adamantite_Bar.png
Adamantite Bar (10)
@ a Hardmode Anvil.

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Based on a sprite by drdragonfly.
Titanium Gladius
38 Damage.
5 Knockback.
Use Time: 10 (6 uses/second)
Recipe:
Titanium_Bar.png
Titanium Bar (10)
@ a Hardmode Anvil.

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Based on a sprite by Brutallama.
Arondight
* Gives off light.
40 Damage.
4 Knockback.
Use Time: 9 (6.7 uses/second)
Recipe:
Hallowed_Bar.png
Hallowed Bar (10)


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Psycho Knife
* Would be used as a Shortsword.
* Other stats would remain the same.


Shroomite Shockblade
75 Damage.
5 Knockback
Use Time: 12 (5 uses/second)
*Fires a sword beam which curves slowly towards enemies dealing 125% damage and penetrating an enemy once.
Recipe:
Shroomite_Bar.png
Shroomite Bars (12)
@ a Hardmode Anvil.

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Based on a sprite by Scironex.
Beetle Berserker (Featured in another thread)
65 Damage.
5.5 Knockback
Use Time: 10 (6 uses/second)
*Fires 2-4 Beetles that behave like Bees or Wasps which deal 40% original damage and hit once each.
Recipe:
Beetle_Husk.png
Beetle Husk (4)
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Chlorophyte Bar (8)
@ a Hardmode Anvil.


Spectre Slasher
80 Damage.
4.5 Knockback
Use Time: 11 (5.5 uses/second)
*Fires a homing Spectre Bolt which deals full weapon damage on contact and ignored enemy defense.
Recipe:
Spectre_Bar.png
Spectre bars (12)
@ a Hardmode Anvil.


To give the Frost Legion a helping hand:

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Snowman Shank (Featured in another thread)
36 Damage.
5 Knockback.
Use Time: 10 (6 uses/second)
*14% Critical strike chance.
*Special drop from Mr. Stabby.


As for a Holiday Shortsword:

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Based on a sprite by Scarecrow.
Candy Cane Shiv
11 Damage
4 Knockback
Use Time: 11 (5.5 uses/second)
* Found in Presents.

That's it for the suggestion. Feedback is appreciated.

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So casting aside my burning hatred for shortswords for the immediate moment, I do have a few things to say about this topic. The first is that angling shortswords is not a bad idea at all and would likely give them much more worth in battle (doesn't mean I won't still hate them though), however, I have to ask- how would that be handled? Like, what would you do to angle them?

The second thing is you used the term "rapier" a disappointingly low amount of times, as rapier is by far the best term for the use style of the shortswords. (In fact, technically speaking all shortswords should be called rapiers (or daggers), as shortswords are used for slashing just like broadswords- it's rapiers that are used primarily for stabbing.)

Also, Spectre Slasher is a terrible name for a stabbing weapon.
 
Henix_Aurorus said:
So casting aside my burning hatred for shortswords for the immediate moment, I do have a few things to say about this topic. The first is that angling shortswords is not a bad idea at all and would likely give them much more worth in battle (doesn't mean I won't still hate them though), however, I have to ask- how would that be handled? Like, what would you do to angle them?
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Aim with the cursor. They're like really fast spears with limited range and angling abilities.
The second thing is you used the term "rapier" a disappointingly low amount of times, as rapier is by far the best term for the use style of the shortswords. (In fact, technically speaking all shortswords should be called rapiers (or daggers), as shortswords are used for slashing just like broadswords- it's rapiers that are used primarily for stabbing.)

Also, Spectre Slasher is a terrible name for a stabbing weapon.
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Maybe you slash perpendicular to the screen so it just looks like it's a stabbing weapon. :cool:
 
I would love to see more shortswords in Terraria as i loved Castlevania: Symphony of the night , where there was this one shortsword that could get you trough half the game . Also i really want to see a mini-excalibur and a mini true excalibur that shoots ghost mini-excaliburs .
 
STABSTABSTABSTABSTABSTAB DEWPOINT TO THE FACE! STABSTABSTABSTAB
I love the names.

Wait, so are they gonna have the normal attack pattern?
Why aren't there equivalents for Night's Edge, or Excalibur?
I'm kinda wondering why the endgame Ranger and endgame Mage armors have a shortsword too...
 
Thanks for the support, guys!

iDuck said:
Wait, so are they gonna have the normal attack pattern?
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They can be aimed up or down 45 degrees so that they aren't as useless against enemies with vertical movement.
Why aren't there equivalents for Night's Edge, or Excalibur?
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A Hallowed Shortsword will prbably be added to the main post, but I'm against a Night's Edge Shortsword because we only need one OP ultimate sword that you can get pre-Hardmode.
I'm kinda wondering why the endgame Ranger and endgame Mage armors have a shortsword too...
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Why does Shroomite have a Digging Claw that doubles as an extraordinary Melee weapon?

Anyways, it's mostly because options can't hurt.
 
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What about a 'Night's start' tooltip: the begining of something terrible. combing the blazing shortsword jungle stinger and the shadow fang or eyegouger? This is good my support.
 
HighSpy said:
Shortswords are currently useless so i see why not
P.s When is the last time a shortsword was added?
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1.2, when they added Tin, Lead, Tungsten, and Platinum. (Ninja'd :p)

Before that, it was pre-release, which means that new Shortswords were never really added ever.
 
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