Game Mechanics Summoner Bad - A green man's essay on the summoner class, and how to possibly improve it

[Nekohime]

What this discussion is teaching me is that outside of its low armor defense, nobody can agree on what Summoner is or isn't good at, and to me that says it's a good class because that means it is good at something at every point in the game making it a fantastic generalist with a bunch of different ways to play

Bingo! You get a gold star! It is fabulous generalist class as everyone can use it. And you can even focus on it.

I Use the Aquascepter myself to completely wipe out the hungry when I fight the WoF god I love that weapon.

 

[MoultonLava]

I Use the Aquascepter myself to completely wipe out the hungry when I fight the WoF god I love that weapon.

If you ever play Remix or GFB, AS gets progress swapped with the Bubble Gun, and it gains a massive DPS increase and local I Frames.

 

[Dapling]

I have heard the legends of Remix AS, and it genuinely looks great to use. I have seen a 15 second speedkill of LC with it.

Funny thing is I’m pretty sure that speedkill sounds insanely unoptimized too, because I’ve gotten lower times with bubble gun before personally. (Unless it was a legendary mode speedkill in which case that makes more sense)

 

[Nekohime]

Speaking of the Bubblegun. Am I weird if I like that more then the other magic item that Duke Fishron drops? Razorblade Typhoon is alright thou.

 

[MoultonLava]

Speaking of the Bubblegun. Am I weird if I like that more then the other magic item that Duke Fishron drops?

the RBT? I can understand. You are playing more risky for much higher DPS.

 

[Asternove]

Bingo! You get a gold star! It is fabulous generalist class as everyone can use it. And you can even focus on it.

Idk, Summoner is weird

I Use the Aquascepter myself to completely wipe out the hungry when I fight the WoF god I love that weapon.

I remember liking it a long time ago

 

[Shyguymask]

What this discussion is teaching me is that outside of its low armor defense, nobody can agree on what Summoner is or isn't good at, and to me that says it's a good class because that means it is good at something at every point in the game making it a fantastic generalist with a bunch of different ways to play

Basically, Summoner is inherently good at crowd control, though every class can also excel at piercing/crowd control if they use specific weapons for the job.

Relative to other classes, early pre-Hardmode (specifically Goblin army and Evil bosses) is where Summoner performs the best at piercing thanks to Snapthorn and Vampire Frog shredding groups of enemies like a hot knife through butter.

 

[Dapling]

Basically, Summoner is inherently good at crowd control, though every class can also excel at piercing/crowd control if they use specific weapons for the job.

Relative to other classes, early pre-Hardmode (specifically Goblin army and Evil bosses) is where Summoner performs the best at piercing thanks to Snapthorn and Vampire Frog shredding groups of enemies like a hot knife through butter.

That might just be because summoner has fewer weapons than other classes honestly. All classes have similar amounts of weapons for multitarget (crowd control is not the same thing as multitarget unless you consider death to be a control effect/debuff btw) but summoner has so few total weapons that multitarget options make up a much larger percentage of the class comparatively for much of the game