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Standalone [1.3] tModLoader - A Modding API

steviegt6

Official Terrarian
Why not do this after releasing?
Because doing that after a release would force a bunch of mods to update again, which is generally inconveniencing and takes away from one of the main goals of tML 1.4 restructuring and refactoring its internals. Stop being selfish and asking for an unfinished mess of an update.
 

greenman

Terrarian
Because doing that after a release would force a bunch of mods to update again, which is generally inconveniencing and takes away from one of the main goals of tML 1.4 restructuring and refactoring its internals. Stop being selfish and asking for an unfinished mess of an update.

Is an object-oriented topological sorting-based redesign of interface layers and world generation passes necessary to this goal?
 

>>Terrarian<<

Eater of Worlds
Strange to see that Blushiemagic still didn't update this thread to the new Alpha version for 1.4.
Maybe tomorrow or in a couple of days she edits this thread.
 

steviegt6

Official Terrarian
Strange to see that Blushiemagic still didn't update this thread to the new Alpha version for 1.4.
Maybe tomorrow or in a couple of days she edits this thread.
blushie really isn't around much, anymore. Most of us want to keep this more under wraps, regardless.
 

>>Terrarian<<

Eater of Worlds
No need to spread the news of the alpha around and get peoples' hopes up regarding a potential proper release date. This is still just an alpha, as well, and isn't production-ready. It's only out currently for the sake of testing.
I think I don't care about it. It has no reason to be a secret. And a good way to tell that's true is that lots of youtubers like chippy gaming are announcing that. So I see no problem in spreading it. And, as far as I know, it's not strictly prohibited in this forums to talk about it. So I will do it.
 

jopojelly

Retinazer
tModLoader
We're trying to manage expectations so that regular users don't get upset when their mods, players, and worlds break day to day as we change code. By making sure everyone reads the announcement on the discord, we can ensure that they all internalize the massive warnings. If they do, they won't have expectations that they might otherwise have and start playing through the game for real.
 

>>Terrarian<<

Eater of Worlds
We're trying to manage expectations so that regular users don't get upset when their mods, players, and worlds break day to day as we change code. By making sure everyone reads the announcement on the discord, we can ensure that they all internalize the massive warnings. If they do, they won't have expectations that they might otherwise have and start playing through the game for real.
Thank you Jopojelly.
 

Sephiroth

Spazmatism
By making sure everyone reads the announcement on the discord
You do have to keep in mind though that Discord has problems from time to time, as an example: I've hit this when trying to get information on a Starbound mod pack who's author has decided to do the very same thing and have information about the pack locked in some channel on some discord. I've also hit this problem trying to look up information on various Terraria Mods themselves who's mod authors have retreated away from these community forums for who knows WHAT reason...

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Not everyone can join every single discord server just for information, so making it (referring to the announcement you referred to above...) publicly available on this thread would also help. Just saying.
 
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steviegt6

Official Terrarian
I think I don't care about it. It has no reason to be a secret. And a good way to tell that's true is that lots of youtubers like chippy gaming are announcing that. So I see no problem in spreading it. And, as far as I know, it's not strictly prohibited in this forums to talk about it. So I will do it.
I never said you couldn't talk about it, or it had to be kept a secret? And YouTubers announcing it doesn't mean anything?

You do have to keep in mind though that Discord has problems from time to time, as an example: I've hit this when trying to get information on a Starbound mod pack who's author has decided to do the very same thing and have information about the pack locked in some channel on some discord. I've also hit this problem trying to look up information on various Terraria Mods themselves who's mod authors have retreated away from these community forums for who knows WHAT reason...


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Not everyone can join every single discord server just for information, so making it (referring to the announcement you referred to above...) publicly available on this thread would also help. Just saying.
TML is a public server as it stands, so you should be able to preview it without needing to join. You can also just create an alt account or switch to a private tab and join with a dummy account to view the code.
 

jopojelly

Retinazer
tModLoader
You do have to keep in mind though that Discord has problems from time to time, as an example: I've hit this when trying to get information on a Starbound mod pack who's author has decided to do the very same thing and have information about the pack locked in some channel on some discord. I've also hit this problem trying to look up information on various Terraria Mods themselves who's mod authors have retreated away from these community forums for who knows WHAT reason...

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Not everyone can join every single discord server just for information, so making it (referring to the announcement you referred to above...) publicly available on this thread would also help. Just saying.
That is a valid point, not everyone wants a discord account or has room for 1 more server. But, the purpose of the alpha is for rapid mod developer feedback. There is nothing to be gained from someone who finds a bug but doesn't talk to us in the discord chat about that bug. We also regularly maintain discord pins with known workarounds to issues we are currently working on. If people were posting here in the forums, the developers might never see it, or the back and forth time required to discuss an issue on a forum like this would be too frustrating to troubleshoot issues with. On the discord, we can immediately narrow down causes of issue.
 

Sunny ☼

Plantera
Is there a place to appeal discord bans? Cause i was banned like two years or so ago and ive never been provided a reason.
 
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