Console 1.3: A Progress Update on the Road to Certification

[SirPotatoGuy]

You can't pay for the patch in advance though.

you can buy breadsticks tho

 

[Khaosbringer]

You can't pay for the patch in advance though.

But you can buy a new copy of a game you already own, based on the promised release of said patch. So the point still stands. If you purchased based on these promises, then you can infact pay in advance.

 

[ReusableLime20]

But you can buy a new copy of a game you already own, based on the promised release of said patch. So the point still stands. If you pirchased based on these promises, then you can infact pay in advance.

Yeah, but the only reason I bought it one the next gen was because old gen was, well, old.

 

[Khaosbringer]

Yeah, but the only reason I bought it one the next gen was because old gen was, well, old.

That's fine. I personally bought it because this content isn't available on the old gen. I never would have bought a new copy if it wasnt for 1.3. No sense paying for something i already have.

 

[ShadowOfDarkness]

That's fine. I personally bought it because this content isn't available on the old gen. I never would have bought a new copy if it wasnt for 1.3. No sense paying for something i already have.

But you did have it, and bought it anyway, therefore your action didn't "make sense".

It's not PipeWorks' fault that you bought the game in advance.

 

[MoeHolyGhost]

I knew it was a matter of time before this dance started up again. How soon the faithful forget.

First off, I'm just curious. Do you guys have games other them terraria to play. Not trying to be that guy or anything but there are other games, if you are bored with terraria and you're just holding out for 1.3 doing meaningless stuff maybe take a break, play some other games while you wait. Will keep you from getting to bored and make sure you dont get burnt out from terraria.

Far too many to count. Throw emulators into the mix and far too many jumps to literally too many to play them all. How people think this joke could ever hold water is beyond me but hey, some of you think waiting for an update promised since the god damn launch of terraria on PS4/Xbone is okilly dokilly too so.....

Yes. Without a doubt. #BreadsticksForTheWin

Far be it for me to slam someone for ironically #ing, but this felt unironic and I'm genuinely concerned by that for some reason.

You can't pay for the patch in advance though.

Except that's exactly what we did by buying PS4/Xbone terraria. We were told from the start these versions would receive later updates while they were still updating last gen. We've payed for this since before mounts were finally implemented in the game.

It's not PipeWorks' fault that you bought the game in advance.

It's ultimately engines fault for being trash. But it's also relogics fault for signing off on such a discription to follow the PS4/Xbone release.

Pipeworks isn't at fault for engine's mess up. They are, however, at fault for blue balling us since last fall. Teasing a potential release every few months just to say "soon".




Defending them after the next update thread where they have to give us yet another delay is going to take some serious mental gymnastics. I suggest you all start practicing.

 

[Khaosbringer]

But you did have it, and bought it anyway, therefore your action didn't "make sense".

It's not PipeWorks' fault that you bought the game in advance.

They advertised q2 release, i bought game on information advertised. Made sense based on what they advertised. You may disagree with this opinion, which you've stated over and over and over that you do, ( to the point almost feels like your stalking me lol) but opinions are subjective to each individual.

 

[N1NJ4W4RR10R]

Why would having other games to play be relevent to this games delay? Folks are upset because of terraria being delayed over and over. Of course there are other options. That doesnt take away from terraria being over 3 months late if you took the q2 release to mean the end of q2, or over 6 months late if you took it to mean the beginning of q2. I'm sure folks have alot of other options available. If you went to a restaurant and payed in advance for a steak, would you ignore the fact that it never arrived, simply because they put breadsticks on the table for you to snack on?

Well I mean it'd depend on how long. If its just 1 guy working on my food I'd wait as long as it takes him to cook it right, and while I'm waiting eat those breadsticks.

But you can buy a new copy of a game you already own, based on the promised release of said patch. So the point still stands. If you purchased based on these promises, then you can infact pay in advance.

Not really, I dont think they have ever given a proper date as an eta, only really updates times they hoped to have it out by. Would you have bought a stake if they had said "it may take 5 minutes, but it could also take an hour"

 

[Delete This Account]

This is a dance that will probably never be ended either. From one side as far as I can tell, you see your purchase of Terraria for next gen as a pre-order for the promised content. Your purchase was motivated by those promises.

I see your purchase as simply an investment in future returns, like kickstarting a game. That you feel buyer's remorse because that return is taking too long is really your own fault. Invest wiser in the future.

 

[ReusableLime20]

Far be it for me to slam someone for ironically #ing, but this felt unironic and I'm genuinely concerned by that for some reason.

Actually, it was ironic(kind of). I don't like steak, that's why I wouldn't care. However, I realize you and others concerns. Yes, you have every right to be disappointed and angry, but, as you said, it isn't Pipeworks' fault, and we should not be directing our anger at them. Also, I find it hard to believe that you (not you specifically, just in general) only bought the Xbox One/PS4 because Terraria would get an update exclusively on that console. That may have been a very large factor, but I do not think it was the only reason.

 

[Khaosbringer]

Well I mean it'd depend on how long. If its just 1 guy working on my food I'd wait as long as it takes him to cook it right, and while I'm waiting eat those breadsticks.



Not really, I dont think they have ever given a proper date as an eta, only really updates times they hoped to have it out by. Would you have bought a stake if they had said "it may take 5 minutes, but it could also take an hour"

If they say we expect it to be done in x amount of time, and it takes x+1 sure, it's excusable. But if they state it will done by x time, and 3 to 6 months later i still haven't gotten my steak, and they still can't give me an exact date i can expect that steak, you better believe i'm gonna be upset. Expecially if they keep pushing back the arrival time, just before the new date they gave me. Now your questioning why folks are angry they haven't got their steak, when they can just go out and buy more breadsticks.

@ReusableLime20 Why would you buy the same exact game more than once unless it was for exclusive content? I'm sure alot of folks did, but to me to seems like a waste of money. You may see it as unrealistic, but some folks would rather just save the money for something else. I still play my 360. Got it hooked up to my old t.v. since the ps4 requires hd hookups, and my old t.v. doesnt have them. My older t.v. is a projection screen, and at least twice the size of my new one, so it's the one in the living room. This gives both me and my wife the option of playing a game when we don't feel like doing co-op.

 

[Sharcy]

We should be patient, but we should be cautiously patient. I have been watching these forums for quite awhile and I see a lot of really upset people over how long Pipeworks is taking, guise, they rewrote the entire game from scratch, its gonna take a heckin' century for the, to fix everything, the game's even running on unity, which I dunno if some of you have seen, but it can be a buggy MESS sometimes. I mean, I can understand a lot of the saltiness and disappointment with the delays, but I can also understand how the Pipeworks team really just wants to give us the best quality recreation possible, so its really just a huge, sharp as heck double edged sword.

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

 

[Khaosbringer]

This is a dance that will probably never be ended either. From one side as far as I can tell, you see your purchase of Terraria for next gen as a pre-order for the promised content. Your purchase was motivated by those promises.

I see your purchase as simply an investment in future returns, like kickstarting a game. That you feel buyer's remorse because that return is taking too long is really your own fault. Invest wiser in the future.

Well we can agree on investing wiser. No more pipeworks/relogic games. Not dependable enough. I can only assume thats what you meant.

 

[ReusableLime20]

Well we can agree on investing wiser. No more pipeworks/relogic games. Not dependable enough. I can only assume thats what you meant.

Dude, it's an indie game. It's not like Destiny or Halo, who have the resources to say "We will be done with Halo X by XX/XX/XX" It's much harder, as they have fewer members.

 

[Delete This Account]

Well we can agree on investing wiser. No more pipeworks/relogic games. Not dependable enough. I can only assume thats what you meant.

Yes, but not just Pipeworks or ReLogic. I say never pre-order anything from any company, period. That includes early access programs. Never buy a product that is not already what you want it to be. Never purchase based on promises of what will be delivered.

The greatest lie games publishers ever sold us on was the idea we need to purchase things ahead of time to avoid being left out.

Dude, it's an indie game. It's not like Destiny or Halo, who have the resources to say "We will be done with Halo X by XX/XX/XX" It's much harder, as they have fewer members.

Game devs of that size don't promise hard release dates because they have the manpower to make it happen. They promise them because their publishers and investors have given them a deadline to have something by this date or else. Indus tend to delay because there's nobody stopping them. Both types of developers would love to work on a product until it's "done." Sometimes you've gotta release what you've got.

 

[Khaosbringer]

Dude, it's an indie game. It's not like Destiny or Halo, who have the resources to say "We will be done with Halo X by XX/XX/XX" It's much harder, as they have fewer members.

Bit that's exactly what they did. They set expectations of a q2 release.

 

[Delete This Account]

Bit that's exactly what they did. They set expectations of a q2 release.

Yep, and they failed to meet it. They apologized for it, gave a new expectation, and continued working. What more should they have done?

 

[Khaosbringer]

Yep, and they failed to meet it. They apologized for it, gave a new expectation, and continued working. What more should they have done?

Invest enough of the profits they got from the more then 20 million copies they've sold to ensure they could meet their commitments.

 

[ReusableLime20]

Invest enough of the profits they got from the more then 20 million copies they've sold to ensure they could meet their commitments.

They don't have a machine that turns out 1.3 updates if you put in some money. Unless you mean they should have hired more people, then your comment makes more sense.

 

[Delete This Account]

Invest enough of the profits they got from the more then 20 million copies they've sold to ensure they could meet their commitments.

I'm not sure that throwing more money at the problem is a good solution. How would you even do that?

Temp hire people for the short time you need to push the game out? You'll probably end up with a product that's even worse than you started with.

Crunch time? Now you've burnt out some of your best staff and killed their passion to make a good product in the future. Crunch time is the worst thing the games industry does to itself. That practice would not fly in any other industry.